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It appears that for each integer $k\geq2$, there is always one integer $c$ that satisfies the inequalities below. Can this be proved?

$$\frac{3^k-2^k}{2^k-1}<c\leq \frac{3^k-1}{2^k}.$$

Note that for $k\geq2$ the lower bound is always a proper fraction and will never match an integer.

Edit 28/1/2018 I have a short proof here on Overleaf. <--- It's done! Edit #28 is perfect!

edit It looks like Waring's problem already has a solution. The sequence: https://oeis.org/A060692 "Corresponds to the only solution of the Diophantine equation 3^n = x*2^n + y*1^n with constraint 0 <= y < 2^n." This is equivalent to our $a+c$ for the Waring if statement. Oops, there is no proof that the diophantine equation is always $\leq 2^n.$ Here is a proof sketch of Waring's

Here is a brute force function:
aplusc[k_] := Module[{c}, c = 1; While[0 < 3^k - 2^k (++c)]; 3^k - 2^k (--c) + c]
where we increment $c$ until the calculation becomes negative, then we decrement by one to get $c$. We recalculate using that $c$ and add them together. A060692(k) equals this value.

Closed form: here. The brute force function illustrates the sawtooth pattern.

We can also create a(k), b(k), and c(k) using the same module. And we can use b(k) for the proof. Trivially, we can show b$(k) + 1 \leq 2^k.$

edit. Some more information and references: https://oeis.org/A002379 PM

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    $\begingroup$ The difference between the RHS and the LHS is $1-\frac{3^k-1}{2^k(2^k-1)}<1 $. $\endgroup$
    – abx
    Sep 2, 2017 at 13:35
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    $\begingroup$ Let $k>7$, $B=1.5^k$, $A=\lfloor B \rfloor $ and $C=A+1=\lceil B \rceil$ then $A \lt B-0.75^k \lt B \lt B+0.75^k \lt C $ is an **open question** occuring in the Waring problem. An "inner" inequality $ B-0.75^k \lt {3^k+1\over 2^k+1} \lt {3^k-1\over 2^k-1} \lt B+0.75^k$ can be shown by some algebraical reworking. That ${3^k-1\over 2^k-1} \lt C$ might be a consequence of the Steiner-proof for the 1-cycle problem in the Collatz-problem but I don't remember exactly from the top of my head. All those are compatible with your second floor inequality. $\endgroup$ Sep 2, 2017 at 23:24
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    $\begingroup$ After the edits, does this really deserve to be closed? (I would at least wait to act on that until the announced solution is posted.) $\endgroup$ Sep 3, 2017 at 10:46
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    $\begingroup$ The additions to the question don't seem to serve any useful purpose. Please stop making them. $\endgroup$
    – S. Carnahan
    Oct 28, 2017 at 15:05
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    $\begingroup$ 27th version of the question! $\endgroup$ Jan 28, 2018 at 22:13

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It seems to me, that a sufficient proof for your first inequality is given in Zudilin,W., A new lower bound for ||(3/2)^k|| (manuscript at 2005$\,^\dagger$).

There he refers to a proof, where your $0.5^k$ (extracted from your ${3^k - 1\over 2^k}$ by writing ${3^k \over 2^k}-{1\over 2^k}=1.5^k-0.5^k$) was even replaced by the larger value $0.577^k$ . This means, that the integer value $c = \lfloor 1.5^k \rfloor$ is proven smaller than $ 1.5^k-0.577^k$. (The value $0.75^k$ in the Waring-conjecture however is still out of reach)

The left expression in the lhs inequality in your concatenated inequality is larger than rhs$-1$ (obvious by rewriting ${3^k-2^k\over 2^k-1}={3^k-1\over 2^k-1}-1 $ and then by expanding the geometric series) and the distance between the lhs and the rhs tends with increasing $k$ quickly towards $1$ and thus at most one integer value can be in the interval between lhs and rhs (namely the value $c=\lfloor (3/2)^k \rfloor $).

So I assume that with some additional work your full (concatenated) inequality might be provable with elementary means.


$\,^\dagger$ Preprint for "Journal de Theorie des Nombres de Bordeaux", it is available on Zudilin's homepage here.

A view into S. Finch's book "mathematical constants" gives some quick insight, see this link to google-books:

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To show $k\geq2$ per the comment in equality (3) on the other worksheet, we craft a logical expression which contains all the conditions: $\text{lexp }=k\geq 2\land 1\leq a<2^k\land 1\leq b<2^k-1\land \frac{3^k-1}{2^k-1}-\frac{b}{2^k-1}=\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^k-a\ 2^{-k}=c,$ where $a, b$ must be in their respective bounds or we do not have fractional parts and the final condition defines the common floor.

Using Mathematica, we reduce lexp using the six different solution patterns: $\text{case }= \{\{a, b, c\}, \{a, c, b\}, \{b, a, c\}, \{b, c, a\}, \{c, a, b\}, \{c, b, a\}\}$ Table[{LogicalExpand[Reduce[lexp, case[[n]], Reals]]}, {n, 1, Length[case]}] $\begin{cases} 1&b=2^{-k} \left(2^k a-a-2^k+3^k\right)\land c=2^{-k} \left(3^k-a\right)\land k\geq 2\land a<\frac{2^{2 k}-3^k}{-1+2^k}\land 1\leq a\\ 2&b=2^{-k} \left(2^k a-a-2^k+3^k\right)\land c=2^{-k} \left(3^k-a\right)\land k\geq 2\land a<\frac{2^{2 k}-3^k}{-1+2^k}\land 1\leq a\\ 3&\frac{2^k b+2^k-3^k}{-1+2^k}=a\land c=2^{-k} \left(3^k-a\right)\land k\geq 2\land b<-1+2^k\land 2^{-k} \left(-1+3^k\right)\leq b\\ 4&c=\frac{-b+3^k-1}{-1+2^k}\land 3^k-2^k c=a\land k\geq 2\land b<-1+2^k\land 2^{-k} \left(-1+3^k\right)\leq b\\ 5&b=2^{-k} \left(2^k a-a-2^k+3^k\right)\land 3^k-2^k c=a\land k\geq 2\land \frac{-2^k+3^k}{-1+2^k}<c\leq 2^{-k} \left(-1+3^k\right)\\ 6&3^k-2^k c=a\land -2^k c+c+3^k-1=b\land k\geq 2\land \frac{-2^k+3^k}{-1+2^k}<c\leq 2^{-k} \left(-1+3^k\right)\\ \end{cases}$ Since these cases are the only possible solutions, and since each case contains $k\geq2$, we can state, "All six cases produce identical values for $a, b, c$, iff $k\geq2,$ as required."$\square$
29 Sep, 2017
We have enough information from the cases above to solve Waring's problem. First, we extract three boundaries and explain their formulas:
1) Upper bound of the numerator $a$ of the fractional part, case(1), $a<\frac{4^k-3^k}{2^k-1} = 2^k (1-\delta (k)).$ This boundary increases proportionally to the decrease of $\delta (k).$
2) Lower bound of the common floor $c,$ case(5), $c>\frac{3^k-2^k} {2^k-1} = 2^k \delta (k).$
3) Upper bound of the common floor $c,$ case(5), $c\leq\frac{3^k-1} {2^k} = \frac{\delta (k)}{\frac{1}{3^k-1}+\frac{1}{2^k-1}}.$
Note: $\left\lceil 2^k \delta (k)\right\rceil=\left\lfloor \frac{\delta (k)}{\frac{1}{3^k-1}+\frac{1}{2^k-1}}\right\rfloor.$

From: Waring's problem,
$g(k)=2^k+\left\lfloor \left( \frac{3}{2} \right)^k \right\rfloor-2\ \ \ \ \text{ if }2^k \left\lbrace\left( \frac{3}{2} \right)^k \right\rbrace+\left\lfloor \left( \frac{3}{2} \right)^k \right\rfloor\leq 2^k$,
where $\{\cdot\}$ is the fractional part.
Inspecting the "if" statement, we see that the product isolates the numerator of the fractional part, so we substitute $a$ and then substitute $c$ for the floor to get: $a+c\leq 2^k$. Empirically, this is solid. Note: $a+c$ is OEIS sequence A060692.
Next, we substitute the upper boundary for $a$ and the lower boundary for $c$ and change to an equality: $ 2^k (1-\delta (k)) + 2^k\delta (k) =2^k\iff k\geq1\land k \in \mathbb{Z}.$ This is true because $(1-\delta (k))$ and $\delta (k)$ are proportions-of-the-whole, which retain the proportionality when multiplied by the same value; which affirms that the boundaries are rigid (and that the sum will not be greater than $2^k$).

Empirical: $\left\lfloor 2^k (1-\delta (k))\right\rfloor +\left\lfloor \frac{\delta (k)}{\frac{1}{3^k-1}+\frac{1}{2^k-1}}\right\rfloor =2^k$ holds up to $k=350000.$
EDIT 29 Nov, 2017 New reductions.
Let exp3 = k $\geq2 \land (3^k - a)/(2^k) == (3^k - b - 1)/(2^k - 1) == c$, then we reduce using {a, b, c}, {b,c,a}, and {c,a,b} and back substitution. This results in three 3-variable diophantine equations to be proved: $$k>1\land b=\frac{a*2^k-a-2^k+3^k}{2^k}\land c=\frac{a \left(-2^k\right)+a-3^k+6^k}{2^k \left(2^k-1\right)}$$ $$k>1\land c=\frac{-b+3^k-1}{2^k-1}\land a=\frac{b*2^k+2^k-3^k}{2^k-1}$$ $$k>1\land a=\frac{c*2^k-c*2^{2 k}-3^k+6^k}{2^k-1}\land b=c \left(-2^k\right)+c+3^k-1$$

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  • $\begingroup$ Hmm, aren't (1) and (2) identical? In that case you have only 5 condition-equations... $\endgroup$ Sep 20, 2017 at 8:13
  • $\begingroup$ @GottfriedHelms, I just did all possible solutions and hadn't noticed. I double-checked my notebook and it is correct. Both b and c are calculated from a. Some of the others chain like 4 goes c from b, and a from c. $\endgroup$ Sep 20, 2017 at 8:23
  • $\begingroup$ If this was no error, well - I just wanted to spot a possible typo etc. (I'm currently not able to decode your condition and results) $\endgroup$ Sep 20, 2017 at 8:39
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We look at the small difference $\delta(k)$ of the the two fractions (which become very near by higher $k$) $$\frac{3^k-1}{2^k-1}-\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^k=\delta(k). \tag 1$$ Actually $\delta(k)$ is smaller than $1$ and approaches zero with higher $k$ which can be seen when expanded: $$\delta(k)=\frac{3^k-2^k}{2^k(2^k-1)} \lt 1 $$ and is of order$ (3/4)^k$.

If we find now, that also the fractional values of the terms in eq (1) equal $\delta(k)$ thus if we have that $$\left\{ \frac{3^k-1}{2^k-1} \right\}-\left\{ \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^{k} \right\}= \delta(k), \tag 2$$ then it is obvious, that the two terms in (1) have also a common floor and we can write $$\left\lfloor {3^k-1 \over 2^k-1}\right\rfloor=\left\lfloor\left({3 \over 2}\right)^k\right\rfloor. \tag 3$$

The truth of this equality (3) for all $k \geq 2$ is what we want to show.


We introduce now shorter notations $$D(k)=\delta(k) \cdot 2^k =\frac{3^k-2^k}{2^k-1}=\frac{3^k-1}{2^k-1} -1 \tag {4.1}$$ and $$ E(k)=\delta(k) \cdot \frac{(3^k-1)(2^k-1)}{3^k-2^k} = {3^k-1\over 2^k} \tag {4.2} $$ and conjecture, that there is always an integer $c$ between them: $$D(k) \lt c \le E(k) \tag 5$$

If that is indeed the case then we can write $$\therefore\ c= \left\lfloor\frac{3^k-1}{2^k-1}\right\rfloor=\left\lfloor\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^k\right\rfloor \text{for }k\geq2.\ \square$$

(Note: we didn't the required proof here, which actually seems out of reach. The motivation of this "answer" was just to make the original OP's claim and its ideas nicer to read)

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  • $\begingroup$ By "residue", you mean "fractional part"? By "givens", you mean ... what? $\endgroup$ Sep 6, 2017 at 22:56
  • $\begingroup$ I'm lost. What is assumed and what is proven here? In particular in the penultimate line are you claiming that there is an integer $c$ such that the inequalities hold? How does that follow from the preceding lines? $\endgroup$ Sep 7, 2017 at 15:15
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    $\begingroup$ The language is odd (eg. does "started with" mean "assumed"? "verified" means "proved existence in ${\mathbb N}$ of"?). It seems as if you assume (by using the word "when") the equality in the second line to prove the existence of $c$ with the properties in OP, but where is that assumption proven? I would recommend a complete rewrite using more standard language ("assume", "implies", "exists") and no logic symbols. $\endgroup$ Sep 8, 2017 at 8:30
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    $\begingroup$ @Fred, since you mentioned to have current difficulties to formulate a narrative I've taken the liberty to edit your text (a bit radical, perhaps) hoping I do not completely change its meaning. It might not be correct because I do not arrive at a proof but only at a conjecture. Please expand further - or roll back if I did too much/did wrong interpretation. Hope all the best with you! $\endgroup$ Sep 9, 2017 at 3:29
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    $\begingroup$ @FredKline, it seems that now we all agree on what is actually posted so far being a reformulation. Possibly a proof of the conjecture is on the way, or perhaps an empirical proof. I wish you a full and speedy recovery. $\endgroup$ Sep 9, 2017 at 18:18

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