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Hi,

I need an inequality similar to this one for bounded domain [0,L]. http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3166/screenshot1qy.png

My u(x) is not 0 on the boundary.

I will appreciate if you can help me about this question,

Edit: More precisely, is the following the statement true?

For $F\in C^1[0,L]$ with $F(0)=0$ or $\int_0^L F(x)dx=0$, one has the estimate $$ \int_0^L|F(x)|^px^{\beta}dx\leq c\int_0^L|F'(x)|^px^{\beta+p}dx $$

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    $\begingroup$ At least in the case where the function is zero at L, I suppose you've tried the change of variable x to v/(v+1), so that one can attempt to use the inequality in your link (after some algebra) and then do some more algebra to simplify things a bit? It seems like that would work to at least give you some control over the function u(x)-u(L). Would this be at all helpful for your purposes? Why do you need such an inequality? $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 12, 2010 at 2:59
  • $\begingroup$ Actually, I'd like some control over the norm of F with x^2 norm of F' in L_2. $\endgroup$
    – rose
    Commented Jul 11, 2010 at 14:56

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I don't think what you want to prove is true just assuming $f(0) = 0$. Let $f_\sigma(x) = x^{\sigma}$. Then $x f_\sigma'(x) = \sigma f_\sigma(x)$, and $f(0) = 0$. (Okay, so $f$ is not strictly in $C^1$, but you can chomp off a bit to smooth it out and take limits.) Now the left hand side is equal to $\int_0^1 f_\sigma^2 dx$, and theright hand side is $c*\sigma^2 \int_0^1 f_\sigma^2 dx$. Now take limit $\sigma \searrow 0$ and you derive a contradiction.

But in the case where $f$ has mean zero your inequality is true. I'll prove it (per your comments) for the $L^2$ case with $x^2$ weight, but it works in general.

Let $f\in C^1[0,1]$ be a function with mean $0$. Consider the function $g(x) = x f(x)^2$. By the fundamental theorem of calculus $\int_0^1 g'(x) dx = f(1)^2$. On the other hand, $g'(x) = f(x)^2 + 2 x f(x) f'(x)$, so we have the following $$ \int_0^1 f(x)^2 dx = f(1)^2 - 2 \int_0^2 x f(x) f'(x) dx \leq f(1)^2 + \epsilon \int_0^1 f(x)^2 dx + \epsilon^{-1} \int_0^1 (x f'(x))^2 dx $$ using Young's inequality.

Now $f(1) = \int_0^1 (x f(x))' dx = \int_0^1 f(x) dx + \int_0^1 x f'(x) dx$ again by the fundamental theorem. Using that $f$ has mean 0, the first term drops out. By Holder's inequality $$ \left|\int_0^1 xf'(x) dx\right|^2 \leq \int_0^1 1^2 dx \int_0^1 (x f'(x))^2 dx $$ So we have that, collecting all the terms $$ \int_0^1 f(x)^2 dx \leq \frac{1+\epsilon^{-1}}{1-\epsilon} \int_0^1 x^2 f'(x)^2 dx $$ for any $\epsilon \in (0,1)$. You can try to optimize what the minimal one should be.

Just remember that Hardy's inequality is a weighted version of integration by parts.

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  • $\begingroup$ Note that if you instead require $f(1) = 0$ (and not necessarily $f(0) = 0$, then the inequality is true. But that of course follows from the classical case by trivially extending $f$ to $\mathbb{R}_+$ and noting that this extension is still absolutely continuous. $\endgroup$ Commented Jul 11, 2010 at 15:52
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Sorry, I can't access the image on my browser; it won't load for some reason. Could you please type out the inequality in Latex?

So I'll just have to guess what you might want; apologies if this is not what you're asking. The classical one-dimensional Hardy inequality

$$ \int_0^\infty \left| \frac{1}{t} \int_0^t f(s) ds \right|^2 dt \leq 4 \int_0^\infty |f(s)|^2 ds $$

has a generalisation for weights: for any functions $m,w \geq 0$, the best constant $M=M(m,w)$ in the inequality

$$ \int_0^\infty \left| \int_0^t f(s) ds \right|^2 m(t) dt \leq M \int_0^\infty |f(s)|^2 w(s)ds $$

is related to the quantity $$ S(m,w) = \sup_{R>0} \left( \int_R^\infty m(t) dt \right) \left( \int_0^R w(s)^{-1} ds \right) $$ by $S \leq M \leq 4S$. Also, if either $M$ or $S$ equals $+\infty$, then so does the other (i.e. we don't have any reasonable Hardy inequality).

There are generalisations to $L^p$, $L^q$ norms, and $d\mu(t)$ a measure instead of just $m(t)dt$. If you look up Hardy's Inequality with Weights by B. Muckenhoupt from about 1972, and newer related papers, you'll get loads of articles.

However, the multidimensional questions are more difficult and much less is known.

So, if you just wanted a one-dimensional version on $[0,L]$ instead of $[0,\infty)$, you can just set $m(t) = 0$ and $w(s) = +\infty$ for $t,s > L$.

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Actually you need some boundary condition like "u(0)=0", or an integral condition like "u has zero mean", in order to get rid of the constant functions. Otherwise clearly you can't bound a norm of u with a norm of u'. Note that there is no problem with constant functions in the Hardy inequality in [0, ∞) for u is assumed to be in a weighted Sobolev space. Also note that the ratio LHS/RHS in your inequality does not depend on L, so (once you have chosen the constraint as I wrote) you may fix L=1.

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  • $\begingroup$ I have "u has zero mean". So there is no problem with constant functions. But can I still say that this inequality holds for a bounded domain [0,1]? $\endgroup$
    – rose
    Commented Jun 11, 2010 at 6:08

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