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Suppose $A(x)$ is a $\Delta_0$ formula defining a non-empty set of natural numbers. It's an easy theorem that there is a primitive recursive function $f:\mathbb{N} \rightarrow \mathbb{N}$ such that $Range(f) = \{n \in \mathbb{N} \mid A(n)\}$. I'm wondering if it's known whether either of the following strengthenings of this theorem are true:

Strengthening 1: Suppose $A(x)$ is a $\Delta_0$ formula defining a non-empty set of natural numbers. Can we find a $c \in \mathbb{N}$ such that $\varphi_c$ is primitive recursive, $\mathbb{N} \models \forall x (A(x) \rightarrow \exists y \varphi_c(y) {\downarrow} = x)$, and $PA \vdash \forall y \exists x (\varphi_c(y) {\downarrow} = x \wedge A(x))$?

Strengthening 2: Suppose $A(x)$ is a $\Delta_0$ formula defining a non-empty set of natural numbers. Can we find a $c \in \mathbb{N}$ such that $\varphi_c$ is primitive recursive, $PA \vdash \forall x (A(x) \rightarrow \exists y \varphi_c(y) {\downarrow} = x)$, and $PA \vdash \forall y \exists x (\varphi_c(y) {\downarrow} = x \wedge A(x))$?

(In the above, "$\varphi_c$" refers to the (partial) recursive function defined by the Turing machine whose Gödel code is c. "$\varphi_c(y) {\downarrow} = x$" is shorthand for a $\Sigma_1$ formula which says that with input y, the Turing machine with Gödel code c eventually halts and outputs x.)

Pedantic Clarification: Typically "$\phi_c(x){\downarrow} = y$" is an abbreviation for "$\exists t M(c,x,y,t)$", where (i) $M(c,x,y,t)$ is a $\Delta_0$ formula and (ii) $\mathbb{N} \models M(c,x,y,t)$ if and only if the Turing machine with Gödel code c halts after t steps on input x and produces output y. Let's call any formula $M$ satisying (i) and (ii) a "computation predicate". By this paper by H.B. Enderton, Strengthening 2 is false for certain choices of computation predicate.

It follows that any argument for Strengthening 2 which assumes that our choice of $\Delta_0$ computation predicate is arbitrary cannot suffice. We also need that PA proves certain facts about our chosen computation predicate. I suspect that any reasonable construction of a computation predicate will work (e.g., whatever construction is used in your favorite recursion theory book), so my question should be phrased more precisely as: is there a computation predicate such that Strengthenings 1 and 2 hold?

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I think both strengthening 1 and 2 are true and it is a sketch for proof:

You can construct an effective procedure to find an index $c$ (of a primitive recursive function) for any $\Delta_0$ formula $A(x)$ such that $\mathbb{N}\models \forall x (A(x)\leftrightarrow \exists y \varphi_c(y)\downarrow =x)$ (because for writing a computer program to simulate $A(x)$ we do not need an unrestricted search loop, and all programs in which all search loops are restricted by a primitive recursive bound, computes a primitive recursive function). If we drop the part $\wedge A(x)$ from the condition $PA\vdash \forall y \exists x (\varphi_c(y)\downarrow =x \wedge A(x))$, it becomes the assertion that $\varphi_c$ is a total function and we know that all primitive recursive functions are provably total in $PA$ (in fact $I\Sigma_1$). I think that with a suitable choose of $c$ it would be provable in $PA$ that $\forall x (A(x)\leftrightarrow \exists y \varphi_c(y)\downarrow =x)$ (of course it need an exact proof by induction on complexity of $A(x)$) and if it can be proved, srengthening1 and 2 both hold.

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I believe even strengthening 2 is a true statement, that can be proven by "simply" internalizing the proof of the original statement into $PA$.

Proof: Suppose $A(n_0)$ holds for some number $n_0\in\mathbb{N}$. In particular this is provable in $PA$: $$ PA\vdash A(\overline{n_0})$$ where $\overline{n}$ is the numeral representing $n$. This is a simple consequence of completeness of $PA$ (and indeed, much much weaker systems) for $\Delta_0$ sentences.

One can then build the following recursive function $f$:

  • $f(0)=n_0$

  • $f(n+1)= \begin{cases} n \mbox{ if $A(n)$ holds}\\ n_0 \mbox{ otherwise}\end{cases}$

The first case in the definition of $f(n+1)$ is easily decidable even for a p.r. function. This function is easy to define in $PA$, and it is easy to prove, again in $PA$, that $A(m)$ holds for every $f(n)=m$, and conversely that for every $m$ such that $A(m)$ hold, there is a corresponding $n$ with $f(n)=m$ (take $n=0$ if $m=n_0$ and $m+1$ otherwise).

The rule of thumb is:

$PA$ can prove everything you can prove in an informal argument that doesn't specifically involve consistency of $PA$ (or something stronger).

This has a few exceptions (e.g. the Paris-Harrington argument).

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  • $\begingroup$ Is there a more precise way of stating this rule of thumb (or a good reference for such theorems)? Your argument is exactly the argument I had in mind, but I'd like to be certain it actually can be carried out in PA. To give you an example of the kind of thing I am worried about, consider part (a) of the sole theorem of this paper: "On Provable Recursive Functions" - H.B. Enderton $\endgroup$
    – James
    Aug 19, 2015 at 20:26
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    $\begingroup$ The first remark is that there is nothing special about $PA$ here: in general you can assume ZFC or whatever you need to carry out your argument. The second remark is that I'm somewhat mistaken: the argument crucially relies on 1. That $PA$ is complete on $\Delta_0$ sentences, and 2. $A(x)$ is provably decidable by a recursive function. This is because we are working from a restricted language, namely $\Delta_0$. Enderton's theorem crucially uses some total function of unknown complexity, i.e. a total function in the abstract. $\endgroup$
    – cody
    Aug 19, 2015 at 22:26
  • $\begingroup$ Regarding PA being complete on $\Delta_0$ sentences, this FOM message seems to suggest that this is indeed PA-provable: cs.nyu.edu/pipermail/fom/2007-August/011793.html In Enderton's paper, if $M_0(x,y,z,w)$ is $\Delta_0$, then the $M(x,y,z,w)$ in part (a) of his theorem may be chosen to be $\Delta_0$ as well. This is because it's possible to find a $\Delta_0$ formula A(x) such that $\mathbb{N} \models \forall n PA \vdash A(n)$ but $\mathbb{N} \not\models PA \vdash A(n)$ (specifically, take A(x) to say that x does not code a proof of ``0=1"). The reason for bringing up Enderton's $\endgroup$
    – James
    Aug 19, 2015 at 22:55
  • $\begingroup$ ...paper is that it suggests that the strenthening 2 cannot be proven by general considerations about recursive functions and Turing machines. It depends on the way computation is encoded. $M(x,y,z,w)$ being $\Delta_0$ is not enough. $\endgroup$
    – James
    Aug 19, 2015 at 23:00
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    $\begingroup$ Your comment is correct, some pathological choices of $\varphi$ won't work. Any reasonable choice allows proving points 1. and 2. of my comments though, which I believe are indeed the crucial steps. For pathological $\varphi$ it is unprovable that $\varphi_c$ indeed behaves as the described $f$. But a broad statement to that effect can be made: no "interesting" property of $\varphi_c$ can be proven (in $PA$) for a sufficiently pathological $\varphi$. $\endgroup$
    – cody
    Aug 20, 2015 at 2:34

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