Suppose $X$ is a simplicial space of dimension $M$ (i.e. all simplices above dimension $M$ are degenerate). The claim is:

$|X|$ is compact. iff $X_n$ is compact for each $n$.

Suppose each $X_n$ is compact. Then $|X|$ is by definition a quotient of a compact space (you don't have to include the simplices above dimension $M$ in the realization). I wonder, whether the converse is true.

Here is one motivating example. Equip the unit interval with the structure of a simplicial space in the following way:

Let $X_0$ be the Cantor-set and let the nondegenerate simplices in $X_1$ are just all the intervals, that get removed in the construction of the cantor set. One can regard $X_1$ as a subspace of $[0;1]$ using the map (of sets) $X_1\rightarrow [0;1]$ , that sends every point in the Cantor set to the corresponding point in the unit interval and that sends each of the small intervals to its barycenter. Equip $X_1$ with the subspace topology using this map.

The geometric realization of this space is the unit interval, which is compact and $X_0,X_1$ are also compact ($X_1$ is a closed subset of the unit interval).

This question arose in the context of this question. I realized, that I don't have a good criterium to say, when a subspace of the geometric realization of a simplicial space is compact.

  • $\begingroup$ Doesn't $\Delta^n \times X_n$ sit inside the realisation as a closed subset? $\endgroup$ – Oscar Randal-Williams Mar 26 '10 at 18:41
  • $\begingroup$ Why is the realization in your example an interval and not a space with uncountably many components (most of which are points)? Do you construct a simplicial set and talk about its usual realization as a CW-complex? If not, please define your terms. $\endgroup$ – Sergei Ivanov Mar 26 '10 at 21:51
  • $\begingroup$ More specifically, your simplicial space is a simplicial object in what category? $\endgroup$ – Sergei Ivanov Mar 26 '10 at 23:07
  • $\begingroup$ It is a simplicial object in the category of spaces. You can view simplicial sets as simplicial spaces by the use of the discrete topology. The geometric realization of a simplicial space is defined analogously to the one of a simplicial set as a quotient of the union of $X_n\times \Delta^n$ (using the same equivalence relation). If each $X_n$ is Hausdorff, the realization is equipped with a filtration of closed subspaces (the skeleta). In general this filtration does not give the structure of a CW-complex: You can just take any non-CW-complex Y and define X to be the constant-Y functor. $\endgroup$ – HenrikRüping Mar 27 '10 at 9:14
  • $\begingroup$ @Oscar: The definition of the geometric realisation is just $|X|:=\amalg_{n=1}^M X_n\times \Delta^n/\sim$, where the equivalence relation is just the same as for simplicial sets. So there is a map $X_n\times \Delta^n\rightarrow |X|$, which is not injective. But if i precompose with the map $X_n\rightarrow X_n\times \Dalta^n$, that picks the midpoint in the second coordinate, I get another map, which is hopefully injective. If it is, one has to check, that its image is a closed subset of |X| and that the topology on $X_n$ is the subspace topology. I will have a try. $\endgroup$ – HenrikRüping Mar 27 '10 at 9:43

Ok I checked the idea mentioned in the comments above.

As $X_n$ is a closed subspace of $X_M$ (use any degeneracy; it has a left inverse; composing both the other way round yields a projection and projections have closed images in the Hausdorff setting), it is enough to show, that $X_M$ is compact.

So consider the "generalized midpoint map"

$i: X_M\rightarrow \coprod_{n\le M} X_n\times \Delta^n\rightarrow |X|\qquad x\mapsto [x,c]$, where $c\in\Delta^M$ denotes the barycenter.

For example, if $M=2$ and $x$ is a nondegenerate one simplex in $X$, there are two degeneracies $s_0,s_1:X_1\rightarrow X_2$. Then one gets in |X|:



So in the realisation one really picks several midpoints of a simplex, that doesn't have maximal dimension.

But the map $i$ is still injective. Any simplex $x\in X_M$ might be written in a unique way as $x=s(y)$, where $y\in X_n$ is nondegenerate and $s$ is a degeneracy map (it corresponds to a surjective map $[M]\rightarrow [n]$ in $\Delta^{Op}$, $\Delta^{Op}$ can be identified with the category whose objects are the sets $\{0,\ldots,n\}$ and whose morphisms are nondecreasing maps).

Then $i(x)=[y,s(c)]=[y,\frac{s^{-1}(1)}{3},\ldots,\frac{s^{-1}(1)}{3}]$. Now the right side has normal form (There is a normal form for points in $|X|$. This can be found in every book about simplicial sets and it works the same way for simplicial spaces). Given any other $x'=s'(y')$ with $i(x)=i(x')$, we get

$[y,\frac{|s^{-1}(1)|}{M+1},\ldots,|\frac{s^{-1}(1)|}{M+1}]=[y',\frac{|s'^{-1}(1)|}{M+1},\ldots,\frac{|s'^{-1}(n)|}{M+1}]$. As this is in normal form, we get $y=y'$ and $|s'^{-1}(i)|=|s^{-1}(i)|$. But such nondecreasing maps are characterized by the size of the preimages, so $s=s'$ and hence $x=x'$. So the map $i$ is injective.

We still have to show, that $i$ is a homeo onto its image and that the image of $i$ is closed. Then $X_M$ is a closed subspace of a compact space and hence compact. Both will follow from the next claim:

For any closed subset $A\subset X_M$ the saturation $A'$ of $A\times \{c\}$ is still a closed subset of $\coprod_{n\le M} X_n\times \Delta^n$. This is an even worse calculation than the last one. One has to consider for each degeneracy map $s:X_N\rightarrow X_M$ the preimage $s^{-1}(A)\times \{s(c)\}$ and the set $B_s$ of all points that can be simplified to one of those points. Then one can show, that $B_s$ is closed and $A'=\bigcup_s B_s$. As there are only finitely many degeneracy maps (below dim $M$) this is a finite union and hence closed.


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