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We start with a finite dimensional chain complex over $\mathbb{F}_2$, equipped with a basis. That is, we have finitely many finite dimensional $\mathbb{F}_2$-vector spaces $C_0,\dots,C_k$ with bases $B_0,\dots,B_k$, and $\mathbb{F}_2$-module maps $d_i\colon C_i\rightarrow C_{i-1}$ with $d_{i-1}d_i=0$. I want to lift this to a chain complex over $\mathbb{Z}$.

(A cleaner restatement in terms of matrices is: we have matrices $M_1,\dots,M_k$ over $\mathbb{F}_2$ with $M_{i-1}M_i=0$, and I want to lift them to matrices over $\mathbb{Z}$ satisfying that property.)

Now, this can always be done (for example, by using the structure theorem for chain complexes over $\mathbb{F}_2$). I wanted to know if this can always be done subject to the following restrictions.

Restriction 1: $0$ in $\mathbb{F}_2$ should lift to a $0$ in $\mathbb{Z}$.
Restriction 2: (Only interested if Restriction 1 can always be achieved) $1$ in $\mathbb{F}_2$ should lift to $\pm 1$ in $\mathbb{Z}$.

(I believe, for no particular reason, that Restriction 1 can always be achieved, but not Restriction 2 in addition.)

Clarifications in response to comments: $\mathbb{F}_2$ is the field of two elements (perhaps I should have said $\mathbb{Z}/2\mathbb{Z}$ throughout).
Explicit restatement: I have matrices $M_1,\dots,M_k$ over $\mathbb{F}_2$ such that for all $i$, the product $M_{i-1}M_i$ is defined and is zero. I want to find integer matrices $N_1,\dots,N_k$ such that for all $i$, $N_{i-1}N_i=0$, and the mod-2 reduction of $N_i$ is $M_i$. I want to ensure that if an entry is zero in $M_i$, then the corresponding entry in $N_i$ is zero. In addition, I wouldn't mind if I can ensure that if an entry is $1$ in $M_i$, then the corresponding entry in $N_i$ is $\pm 1$, but that is perhaps a bit much.

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  • $\begingroup$ It'd be a pleasure to consider this topic, but personally I would prefer much more explicit definitions. It'd be perhaps a couple of extra lines, and things would be clearer to me. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 16:39
  • $\begingroup$ What is $F_2$? If it is the free group of rank $2$, which is what that notation means to me, then what is a chain complex over $F_2$ given that $F_2$ is a nonabelian group? $\endgroup$
    – Lee Mosher
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    $\begingroup$ @LeeMosher: I took $F_2$ to mean the field of two elements here. $\endgroup$
    – Noah Stein
    Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:02
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    $\begingroup$ 1. What is "the structure theorem for chain complexes over F_2"? 2. What does it mean "lift"? I understand it as lifting in the category of vector spaces, so 0 should go to 0 automatically, isn't it? $\endgroup$ Commented May 18, 2014 at 11:42
  • $\begingroup$ @Pasha: every chain complex over a field is isomorphic to a chain complex in which every differential is the composition of a projection out of a direct sum and an inclusion into another direct sum. To lift an object $d$ in a category $d \in D$ through a functor $F : C \to D$ is to find an object $c \in C$ such that $F(c) \cong d$. In this case $C, D$ are chain complexes over $\mathbb{Z}$ and $\mathbb{F}_2$ respectively and $F$ is tensor with $\mathbb{F}_2$. $0$ refers to a matrix entry and not to an object. $\endgroup$ Commented May 19, 2014 at 17:27

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This is not always possible, even just with condition (1). Consider the complex $\mathbb{F}_2^7 \to \mathbb{F}_2^7 \to \mathbb{F}_2^3$ where the basis of the first vector space is indexed by lines of the Fano plane, the basis of the second vector space is indexed by points of the Fano plane and the third vectors space is just thought of as $\mathbb{F}_2^3$.

The first map sends a line to the formal sum of the three points on it. The second map embeds the Fano plane as the $7$ nonzero elements of $\mathbb{F}_2^3$. So the composisition is $0$ because, for any line in the Fano plane, the three points on it add up to $0$ considered as vectors in $\mathbb{F}_2^3$.

If you had a lift of the sort you describe, you would have $7$ vectors in $\mathbb{Z}^3$ (the image of the basis vectors of the second $\mathbb{Z}^7$) such that each line of the Fano plane gave three vectors with a linear relation between them. In other words, you would have realized the Fano plane in $\mathbb{P}^2(\mathbb{Q})$, which is impossible.

In general, questions about linear algebra while imposing that various matrix entries are zero resemble Mnev's universality theorem, so you should expect everything conceivable to go wrong.

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  • $\begingroup$ Can you elaborate on that last remark? I'm afraid I don't see the connection. $\endgroup$ Commented May 19, 2014 at 17:31
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    $\begingroup$ It was deliberately vague, but for example: Suppose I say that $A \vec{v}=0$ where $A$ is a matrix $\vec{v}$ is a vector whose only nonzero entries are in positions $2$, $4$, $5$ and $8$. Then I am saying that rows $A_2$, $A_4$, $A_5$ and $A_8$ are linearly dependent. So I can probably take whatever linear algebra problem you are doing and use it to talk about a bunch of vectors, subsets of which have various linear dependencies. And that is, more or less, a matroid realization space, which is what Mnev's result talks about. I presume you've already read arxiv.org/abs/math/0411469 ? $\endgroup$ Commented May 19, 2014 at 17:47

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