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I am recently concerned with the following problem: Given a parametrized curve in $\mathbb{R}^6$, what is the condition that it belongs to a hyper-sphere of dimension 5?

The more general question would be what are the conditions for a given parametrized curve in $\mathbb{R}^n$ to belong to a given hyper-surface of $\mathbb{R}^n$? The easiest answer would be the existence of an isometric embedding. But I think that is a question of integrability. I was trying to see the simplest case: the condition of a space curve $\mathbf{r}(s)$ in $\mathbb{R}^3$ to belong to a given surface $\mathbf{R}(\theta^1,\theta^2)\in\mathbb{R}^3$. Intuitively, it simply means that at every point on the curve, the vector space formed by the tangent vector and either the normal vector or the binormal vector merges with the tangent space at the corresponding point of the surface. But there has to be an intrinsic way of saying the same thing, namely ,for example, a compatibility between the Serret-Frenet curvature-torsion pair of the curve and the curvature tensor of the surface. Either of the two choices of vector spaces mentioned above gives rise to a 2 dimensional differentiable distribution in $\mathbb{R}^3$ along the given curve. For an integrable surface to exist, this distribution has to be involutive. Then, we can define an euclidean transformation on this surface so as to merge it with the given one.

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  • $\begingroup$ I assume the curves you are asking about are transcendental? If it is algebraic then I believe the answer is trivial... $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 17, 2014 at 22:10
  • $\begingroup$ Yes. Any general curve, not necessarily algebraic. But even for an algebraic curve, I don't know the answer. Could you please let me know or suggest me a reference? $\endgroup$
    – Ayan
    Commented Mar 17, 2014 at 22:14
  • $\begingroup$ Could you specify what exactly is given and what you want to find? Is it up to isometry or as is? $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 18, 2014 at 11:03
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    $\begingroup$ The equations of a curve and a surface in $\mathbb{R}^3$ are given. I want conditions for the curve to lie on the surface, by which I mean that I want to give the curve a Euclidean transformation so that it gets placed on the surface. What are the conditions for such Euclidean transformation to exist? $\endgroup$
    – Ayan
    Commented Mar 18, 2014 at 15:08

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Working this out in full generality is likely to be rather messy and unenlightening, but there are a few remarks about the nature of the problem (and special cases) that can be made, so I'll put them here.

First, for any $n$-manifold $M$, let $\mathcal{C}_k(M)$ denote the space of $k$-jets of unparametrized, oriented, immersed curves in $M$. This $\mathcal{C}_k(M)$ is well-known to be a manifold of dimension $n+(n{-}1)k$, with $\mathcal{C}_0(M) = M$ and $\mathcal{C}_1(M)$ being the space of oriented lines in the tangent spaces of $M$, etc. If $\phi:M\to N$ is a smooth embedding, it induces a smooth embedding $\mathcal{C}_k(\phi):\mathcal{C}_k(M)\to \mathcal{C}_k(N)$ in the obvious way.

Now, $\mathcal{C}_k(\mathbb{E}^3)$ is acted on by the $6$-dimensional group $G$ of isometries of $\mathbb{E}^3$, and this action is transitive when $k=0$ or $1$. When $k\ge2$, there is an invariant function, $\kappa:\mathcal{C}_k(\mathbb{E}^3)\to \mathbb{R}$ that simply gives the curvature of the $k$-jet of the curve; it is a smooth submersion away from the locus where $\kappa=0$, and the action of $G$ on the locus $\kappa\not=0$ is free. Let $\mathcal{C}^+_k(\mathbb{E}^3)$ denote the locus where $\kappa>0$.

When $k\ge3$, there are well-defined functions $\kappa_i, \tau_j:\mathcal{C}^+_k(\mathbb{E}^3)\to\mathbb{R}$ for $0\le i\le k{-}2$ and $0\le j\le k{-}3$ which are invariant under $G$ and for a given $k$-jet of a curve with $\kappa\not=0$ evaluate in such a way that $\kappa_i$ is the $i$-th derivative of the curvature $\kappa=\kappa_0$ of the curve with respect to (oriented) arclength and $\tau_j$ is the $j$-th derivative of of the torsion $\tau = \tau_0$ of the curve with respect to (oriented) arclength. The fibers of the submersion $$ \pi_k = (\kappa_0,\ldots,\kappa_{k-2},\tau_0,\ldots,\tau_{k-3}): \mathcal{C}^+_k(\mathbb{E}^3)\to\mathbb{R}^{2k-3} $$ are the orbits of $G$.

Now, if you specify a curve $\iota:C\hookrightarrow\mathbb{E}^3$ that has nonvanishing curvature $\kappa>0$, then it determines a curve $\pi_k\circ\mathcal{C}_k(\iota):C\to\mathbb{R}^{2k-3}$ that is $$ \pi_k\circ\mathcal{C}_k(\iota) = (\kappa,\kappa',\ldots,\kappa^{(k-2)},\tau,\tau',\ldots,\tau^{(k-3)}) $$ Say that the curve $\iota:C\hookrightarrow\mathbb{E}^3$ is $k$-regular if this map is an embedding. (The generic curve will be $k$-regular for all $k\ge 3$.)

Now, given an embedded surface $h:S\hookrightarrow\mathbb{E}^3$, we get an embedding $\mathcal{C}_k(h):\mathcal{C}_k(S)\to \mathcal{C}_k(\mathbb{E}^3)$ and hence a mapping $\pi_k\circ \mathcal{C}_k(h):\mathcal{C}_k(S)\to\mathbb{R}^{2k-3}$. For the 'generic' embedded local surface, this mapping of this $(k{+}2)$-dimensional manifold into $\mathbb{R}^{2k-3}$ will be an embedding as soon as $k\ge 5$ and its image will have positive codimension $k{-}5$ as soon as $k\ge 6$.

What this means is that, given a general curve and a general surface in $\mathbb{E}^3$, one will be able to write down a condition that the functions $(\kappa,\ldots,\kappa^{(4)},\tau,\ldots,\tau^{(3)})$ on the curve must satisfy in order that there be any curve of $6$-jets of curves in the surface that gives those functions. Actually, even at the $5$-jet level, generically, there will be essentially only a finite number of curves in $\mathcal{C}_5(S)$ that will map to the curvature image of the given curve $C$, and if none of these curves are the $5$-jet lifts of a curve in the surface $S$, then there is no solution to the problem.

Thus, for the generic pair of a curve and a surface in $3$-space, the problem is solvable by algebra and differentiation, but it is liable to be quite messy.

Of course, in special cases, you get information at lower order: If the surface $h(S)\subset\mathbb{E}^3$ is a sphere of radius $R$, for example, then the image $\mathcal{C}_3(h)\bigl(\mathcal{C}_3(S)\bigr)$ is obviously invariant under the $\mathrm{SO}(3)$-subgroup of rotations about the center, so the image under $\pi_3$ of this $5$-dimensional manifold only has dimension $2$ in $\mathbb{R}^3$. In fact, the image of this map in $\kappa\kappa_1\tau$-space is given by the surface $$ \kappa^{-2} + {\kappa_1}^2\tau^{-2}\kappa^{-4} = R^2, $$ as was established classically. This is why it is easy to characterize spherical curves.

In the more general case that the surface has no continuous ambient symmetries, though, you do not get any relations (other than some possible inequalities) on the curvatures of the curve before you go to the $6$-jet. That is why the general problem is going to be both difficult and have a messy answer, which probably will not be interesting.

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  • $\begingroup$ Thank you very much for the answer. There are specific results in $\mathbb{R}^3$ for a curve, with nonzero torsion and curvature, to lie on a hyper-sphere. It can be easily generalized to $\mathbb{R}^6$ by using generalized Serret-Frenet formulas. These conditions are simply statements about the complete order of contact between the given curve and a hyper-sphere. $\endgroup$
    – Ayan
    Commented Mar 19, 2014 at 16:59
  • $\begingroup$ Yes, but, again, in this case, the invariance of the hypersphere under a rotation group guarantees that there are degeneracies of the $k$-jet mappings involved, so, of course it simplifies in that case, just as is does in the case of a regular sphere in $3$-space. The case of a general hypersurface is much more complicated than for a hypersphere. $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 19, 2014 at 17:22
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I would reformulate the problem in the following manner:

Given is a manifold with codimension 1 (→ 1 equation), the hypersurface $H$ and a manifold with dimension 1 ($n-1$ equations), the curve $C$.

Now a necessary condition for $C\in H$ is $$\rm d h \wedge \rm d c_1 \wedge \ldots \wedge \rm d c_{n-1} = 0,$$

where $$h(x_1, ..., x_n) = 0$$ characterizes $H$ and the equations $$c_i(x_1,..., x_{n})=0, \text{ for } i = 1, ..., n-1 $$ characterize $C$.

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  • $\begingroup$ Why the number of arguments in c_i s is (n-1)? $\endgroup$
    – Ayan
    Commented Mar 18, 2014 at 17:50
  • $\begingroup$ that was just a typo. Thanks for pointing it out. $\endgroup$
    – cknoll
    Commented Mar 19, 2014 at 11:06
  • $\begingroup$ Another idea: in case of algebraic equations $h$ and $c_i$ Groebner Bases should provide a simple solution: Let $G$ be a Groebner Basis of the $c_i$ then $h \,\rm {mod} \,G$ should be $0$ (remainder should vanish). I tested a simple example with sympy, see docs.sympy.org/latest/modules/polys/… $\endgroup$
    – cknoll
    Commented Mar 19, 2014 at 13:31
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    $\begingroup$ However, this only tests whether a given, implicitly defined curve $C$ lies in a given implicitly defined hypersurface $H$. It doesn't tell you anything about whether some rigid motion $R$ in Euclidean space will transport $C$ to a curve $R(C)$ that lies in $H$, which is what the OP wanted. $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 19, 2014 at 14:14

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