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Let $\{A_1,B_1\},\ldots,\{A_k,B_k\}$ be all the distinct unordered couples of subsets, with $A_i \cap B_i = \emptyset, 1 \le i \le k$, that can formed from a set $\{C_1,\ldots,C_q\}$, $q \le \binom{n}{2}$, of subsets of $[n]=\{1,2,\ldots,n\}$ of size $2$, $A_i = \{a_{i,1},a_{i,2}\}, B_i = \{b_{i,1},b_{i,2}\}, 1 \le i \le k$.

Let $\mathcal{E}_j, 1 \le j \le n$ be the families of sets such that any set $E_j \in \mathcal{E}_j$ has the following properties:

  1. $j \in E_j$
  2. $a_{i,1} \in E_j \lor a_{i,2} \in E_j \iff b_{i,1} \in E_j \lor b_{i,2} \in E_j$

Let $f_j$ be the minimum size of a set in $\mathcal{E}_j$.

Finally define:

$$f = \max_{1 \le j \le n} f_j$$

I would like to prove that, for $3 \le m \le n-1$:

$$k \ge \frac{\binom{m+1}{2}\binom{m-1}{2}}{2} \implies f \ge m \tag{1}$$

And I am particularly interested in the case $m = \lceil n/2 \rceil$.

I think the conjecture is true if we assign to $\{A_1,B_1\},\ldots,\{A_k,B_k\}$ all the possible couples of disjoint subsets of size $2$ of $[m+1]=\{1,2,\ldots,m+1\}$, which are exactly $k=\frac{\binom{m+1}{2}\binom{m-1}{2}}{2}$, because, due to symmetry, we have $f_1 = f_2 = \cdots = f_{m+1}$, and we can use induction on $m$.

But how to prove it for a general choice of $\{C_1,\ldots,C_q\}$?

Motivation: this conjecture together with this lower bound, if both proved correct, could be used to prove the union-closed sets conjecture.

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  • $\begingroup$ What is a point of $k$ being large, if the subsets may coincide? $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 2, 2023 at 23:24
  • $\begingroup$ @Ilyia Bogdanov the sets may coincide but not the couples. I have edited the question and I hope it is clearer now. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 3, 2023 at 6:02
  • $\begingroup$ I don't understand. If all the $A_i,B_i$ are pairwise disjoint, so $n=4k$, then don't we have $f=2$? $\endgroup$
    – domotorp
    Commented Oct 3, 2023 at 7:02
  • $\begingroup$ @domotorp for example if $n=4$ all the pairwise disjoint couples are $\{\{1,2\},\{3,4\}\}$, $\{\{1,3\},\{2,4\}\}$, $\{\{1,4\},\{2,3\}\}$, i.e. $3 = \binom{3+1}{2}\binom{3-1}{2}/2$, because $4 = m+1$. If $1 \in E_1$ then $3 \in E_1$ or $4 \in E_1$ from the first couple, choose $3 \in E_1$, then from the second couple $2 \in E_1$ or $4 \in E_1$, choose $2 \in E_1$, then $E_1 = \{1,2,3\}$ and $f = f_1 = \vert E_1 \vert = m = 3$. Do you mean $A_i$ and $A_j$ also disjoint? Could you make an example? $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 3, 2023 at 7:37
  • $\begingroup$ Yes, I mean all are pairwise disjoint, that is why we have $n=4k$. $\endgroup$
    – domotorp
    Commented Oct 3, 2023 at 7:48

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