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Consider a smooth surface of the following form $$ S = \{f(x,y,t) = p_0(t)x^2+p_1(t)xy+p_2(t)x+p_3(t)y^2+p_4(t)y+p_5(t) = 0\}\subset\mathbb{A}^3 $$ over $\mathbb{Q}$, and set $$ U_S = \{t' \in \mathbb{Q} : |\: f(x,y,t') = 0 \text{ for some } (x,y)\in\mathbb{Q}^2\}\subset\mathbb{Q}. $$ Is there any example of such a smooth and irreducible surface $S$ such that the projection $S\rightarrow\mathbb{A}^1_t$ is dominant, and $U_S$ is non empty and non Zariski dense in $\mathbb{Q}$?

Thank you.

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    $\begingroup$ Yes: $f=p_5(t)$. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 24, 2022 at 17:28
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    $\begingroup$ I see that you have changed the question. The answer is still yes: $f=t(t^2(x^2+y^2)+1)$. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 25, 2022 at 9:37
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    $\begingroup$ I changed it again. $\endgroup$
    – Puzzled
    Commented Apr 25, 2022 at 13:52
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    $\begingroup$ The answer is still yes: $f=y^2 - t^3+t$. This example goes back to Fermat. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 25, 2022 at 14:11
  • $\begingroup$ This example is really interesting, thank you. Do you know if there is such an example of the form $f = p_0(t)x^2+p_3(t)y^2+p_5(t) $ where the $p_i$ are all non constant? $\endgroup$
    – Puzzled
    Commented Apr 25, 2022 at 18:01

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I am just posting my comments as an answer. Without a hypothesis that the geometric generic fiber of $\pi:S\to \mathbb{A}^1_t$ is irreducible, the result is false. For a smooth compactification of $S$ on which $\pi$ extends to a morphism to $\mathbb{P}^1_t$, the finite part of the Stein factorization of $\pi$ is either an isomorphism to $\mathbb{P}^1_t$ (precisely when the geometric generic fiber is irreducible) or it is a degree-$2$ cover, i.e., a hyperelliptic curve. For appropriate choices of the coefficient polynomials $p_i(t)$, this can be any hyperelliptic curve. If the genus is $\geq 2$, then this curve has only finitely many $\mathbb{Q}$-points (by Mordell's Conjecture / Falting's Theorem), so the image in $\mathbb{P}^1_t$ is also a finite set.

However, if the geometric generic fiber is irreducible, then the compactification over $S$ is a conic bundle over $\mathbb{P}^1_t$. After base change from $\mathbb{Q}$ to some number field, this surface is rational, i.e., the surface is geometrically rational. There is a conjecture (perhaps due to Colliot-Thélène) that the set of rational points on a geometrically rational variety over a number field is dense in the Brauer subset of the set of adelic points. Assuming this conjecture, once there is a single rational point (so that the Brauer subset is nonempty), the set of rational points is Zariski dense. Thus, the image in $\mathbb{P}^1_t$ is also Zariski dense.

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  • $\begingroup$ Thank you for your answer. Are you assuming that the single rational point is a smooth point of $S$ or could it be singular? $\endgroup$
    – Puzzled
    Commented Apr 30, 2022 at 12:00

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