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I know that Hamel bases have a couple of defects for the purposes of doing analysis in infinite dimensions:

(1) Every Hamel basis of a complete normed space must be uncountable.

(2) For every Hamel basis of a complete normed space, all but finitely many of the coordinate functionals are discontinuous.

I also know both (1) and (2) are false if completeness is dropped.

Here are my questions, which I have labeled A,B,C,D:

A. I don't see why (1) is a serious problem. An uncountable Hamel basis seems just as hard (or just as easy) to work with as a countable Hamel basis. After all, Hamel bases are about unique representation as finite linear combinations. What am I missing?

B. (2) seems like it could be inconvenient. But I don't have a concrete understanding of why. What does (2) stop you from doing? I see that it means the standard dual basis for the algebraic dual is not basis a for the continuous dual.

C. Is there something else that goes wrong with Hamel basis in infinite dimensional spaces? Something, perhaps, that is more obviously inconvenient?

D. Is there something that goes wrong with Hamel basis in incomplete infinite dimensional spaces?

Edit: Some commentators have pointed out that Hamel bases cannot be produced explicitly for the most important spaces. I was aware of that, and should have said so. Is there anything else for C, other than (1),(2), and the lack of explicitness?

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    $\begingroup$ A more concrete problem is that bases in a functional analytic sense can be easily provided for the standard spaces such as $L^2,\ell^2$, etc. while there are no concrete examples of algebraic bases for such spaces. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 29, 2021 at 21:52
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    $\begingroup$ To paraphrase what Christian said, these Hamel bases are not something you can hold in your hands because you need the axiom of choice to produce them. On the other hand, Schauder bases (the correct notion of basis for the present context) can often be produced explicitly and are more useful. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 29, 2021 at 22:43
  • $\begingroup$ @ChristianRemling That's a good point. And something I should have mentioned in my question statement. $\endgroup$
    – JasonJones
    Commented Sep 29, 2021 at 23:02
  • $\begingroup$ @AbdelmalekAbdesselam That's a good point. It's something I was aware of. And I should have mentioned in my question statement. I will edit to add. $\endgroup$
    – JasonJones
    Commented Sep 29, 2021 at 23:06
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    $\begingroup$ In functional analysis you care about norm, or topology, and Hamel basis cares only about linear structure. In particular, the coordinate functionals in Hamel basis are in general unbounded. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 30, 2021 at 7:34

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The following perhaps could be a comment, but I thought that maybe I should state it as an answer so it can get positive or negative feedback.

To my mind, whenever I have taught linear algebra in the past, I emphasises that the great power of having a basis B for a vector space V, to study a linear map T from V to some other vector space W it is enough to know what T does on the elements of B. More precisely: T is uniquely determined by its restriction to B; and any function $B \to W$ extends (uniquely) to a linear map $V \to W$.

To make use of this, we therefore want to have examples or results where we can actually specify the values of T on some given basis.

Now suppose you want to study continuous linear maps $V\to W$ between Banach spaces. Since you can never get your hands on a Hamel basis, there is no possibility of creating interesting/useful linear maps by starting with a function defined on that basis. More seriously: if one just works abstractly and says that any function on a Hamel basis extends uniquely to a linear map on the containing space, how would one be able to tell if the resulting linear map is continuous?

Another practical problems is that most of the time, Banach spaces come with extra structure or context: e.g. $L^p(\mu)$ spaces or $C(K)$-spaces. Discontinuous linear maps are just not going to see this structure.

I think that ultimately, the point is that in functional analysis we want to do more than prove results of the form "if such-and-such a map exists, then another kind of map exists". One actually wants to relate Banach spaces to each other: to understand which ones embed as closed subspaces of other ones; to study settings where every bounded linear map from one space to another is automatically (weakly) compact; and so on. Hamel bases will rarely tell us anything here, because they don't reflect or detect various continuity or compactness properties.

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  • $\begingroup$ "Another practical problems is that most of the time, Banach spaces come with extra structure or context: e.g. 𝐿𝑝(πœ‡) spaces or 𝐢(𝐾)-spaces. Discontinuous linear maps are just not going to see this structure." Can you make this more concrete. Indeed, that's why I asked Part B. $\endgroup$
    – JasonJones
    Commented Sep 30, 2021 at 16:39
  • $\begingroup$ "T is uniquely determined by its restriction to B; and any function π΅β†’π‘Š extends (uniquely) to a linear map π‘‰β†’π‘Š." "Since you can never get your hands on a Hamel basis, there is no possibility of creating interesting/useful linear maps by starting with a function defined on that basis." Both those statements are quite true. However (as I'm sure you know) even orthonormal bases in Hilbert spaces struggle here. You can't simply define a linear map $T:H \to H$ by specifying values on an orthonormal basis. You need additional conditions for the map to be defined. (continued below). $\endgroup$
    – JasonJones
    Commented Sep 30, 2021 at 16:47
  • $\begingroup$ (continued from previous) So part of this is an issue with any type of infinite dimensional basis. But I guess with an orthornomal basis you can at least see what conditions are necessary to ensure $T$ is well-defined or continuous. $\endgroup$
    – JasonJones
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    $\begingroup$ To take the points in reverse order: there are at least some sufficient conditions to ensure that a function defined on an ONB extends to a bounded operator. For instance, if you use the ONB $(e_j)$ to represent the hypothetical operator T as an infinite matrix, then the following property ensures that T extends to a bounded operator: $\sup_j \Vert Te_j\Vert_1 <\infty$ and $\sup_i \Vert T^*e_i \Vert_1 <\infty$ (this is a discrete version of Schur's test) $\endgroup$
    – Yemon Choi
    Commented Sep 30, 2021 at 17:11
  • $\begingroup$ Re: what I said about discontinuous maps not seeing the extra structure. Continuity allows us to tame infiniteness, and frequently one makes progress by studying the behaviour of a continuous operator on some dense subspace with nice algebraic structure (e.g. the trig polynomials in L^2(T)). We know what a continuous operator does to elements of L^2(T) based on what it does to monomials. But if you don't know the operator is continuous, then knowing what it does on monomials tells you nothing about what it does on a function with infinitely many non-zero Fourier coefficients. $\endgroup$
    – Yemon Choi
    Commented Sep 30, 2021 at 17:20
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Historically, bases in functional analysis arose from reflection on a collection of concrete examples, such as trigonometric functions, orthogonal polynomials, spherical harmonics, eigenfunctions of the Laplacian, etc.

What's in common in these examples is that each appeared as a tool to solve a concrete problem by diagonalizing an operator. E. g. you know how the string evolves if released starting with a sine-wave shape, and we would like to know what happens in general. So, we decompose a function into Fourier series, which in general has infinitely many terms. It would be, of course, even better to diagonalize the wave operator into nice functions forming a Hamel basis, but, alas, no such thing exists.

From that point of view, uncountablity is not an issure, since e. g. operators with continuous spectra may be thought of "diagonalizable in an uncountable basis". It's the spectral decomposition of the operators that makes bases (in Hilbert spaces, at least) a particularly important tool.

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This is an addition to Yemon Choi's answer.

In fact, a real-valued function $f$ defined on a Hamel basis $H$ of $\mathbb{R}$ over $\mathbb{Q}$, for instance, extends uniquely to ad additive function, not to a linear function (it only needs to be linear over $\mathbb{Q}$). This can be seen readily defining $$F(x)=\sum_{i=1}^n q_i f(b_i),$$ where $b_i\in H$ for every $i$ and $q_i$ are $n$ rationals such that $\mathbb{R}\ni x=\sum_{i=1}^n b_iq_i$.

This is a classical tool to provide additive, discontinuous real functions, of course exploiting the axiom of choice.

Finally, a Hamel basis is not only "not write-downable": it can be almost as nasty as you want. For instance, you can prove under AC that there is a Hamel basis $H$ of $\mathbb{R}$ over $\mathbb{Q}$ and a function $f:H\to\mathbb{R}$ such that, for every real $x$, $f^{-1}(x)$ has nonempty intersection with every closed, uncountable set without containing any of them (= is a Bernstein set). Or you can prove that there exists a Hamel basis which is not measurable and does not have the property of Baire, and much more...

All of this is very nicely covered in Chapter 7 of:

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