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Let us fix $0 \neq \lambda \in \mathbb{R}$. Let us consider the following ODE, on $[0,\infty)$: $$ y^{\prime \prime} (x) + \frac{r e^{-x}}{(1+e^{-x})^2} y(x) = -\lambda^2 y(x).$$ Here $r \ge 1$ is a parameter. Let us consider the solution $e_r (x)$ which satisfies $e_r (x) \sim e^{i \lambda x}$ as $x \to +\infty$. How would one approach showing (if this is indeed true) that $$\sup_{\substack{r \ge 1\\ x \in [0,\infty)}} |e_r (x)| < \infty.$$ Ideally, I am interested in some wider class of examples, so I am less interested in a "trick" that happens to work in this very particular case, and more in some conceptual approach, but still would like to hear all approaches.

Thank you

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  • $\begingroup$ @AlexandreEremenko I try to plot this numerically, with lambda = 1 and time incrementing from 0 to 3000 with 3000 steps. Problem is I don't know to plot with boundary constraint being at infinity. So I try boundary constraint at 0: y = 0, y'=1. Impression is that, for any given r, all peaks are roughly at same height (and actually as I increase r the height decreases under these initial conditions). So roughly speaking, normalizing so that it is of height 1 at infinity, seems I do get some independence of r. $\endgroup$
    – Sasha
    Commented Jun 2, 2021 at 18:51
  • $\begingroup$ For what it's worth, I think this might well be true. A simple toy model for your situation that can be solved explicitly would be to replace the potential $-re^{-x}/(\ldots )$ by $V(x)=-r$ for $0\le x\le 1$ and $V(x)=0$ for $x>1$, and the Jost solution is uniformly bounded in this case. The key seems to be that while $|V|$ does get large, it is negative, which has roughly the same effect as making the energy $\lambda^2$ large, and the Jost function (like everything else in the spectral theory of this operator) should have well defined large energy asymptotics. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 3, 2021 at 1:37
  • $\begingroup$ On the other hand, if you changed the sign of the potential term, then this would clearly be false. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 3, 2021 at 1:52
  • $\begingroup$ One more perhaps not so helpful thought: The (standard, constructed via the $m$ function) spectral measure has density $\lambda/|e(0,\lambda)|^2$ on $(0,\infty)$, and the asymptotics as $\lambda\to\infty$ are $\simeq\lambda$. So if I'm right about your question being similar to large energy asymptotics, then this seems to indicate that the question could be rather delicate. (A bounded $e$ is nicely consistent with the known asymptotics, but a just slightly unbounded $e$ might be possible too, at least from this point of view.) $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 3, 2021 at 2:06

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It is bounded. Moreover, $|y(x)|\leq 1$ for $x\geq 0$ for all $r>0$ and $\lambda>0$ (so the estimate is uniform not only in $r$ but in $\lambda$ as well).

This is a special case of the following theorem due to User @Fedja.

Theorem. In the equation $y''+V(x)y=0$, let the potential $V$ be decreasing and bounded from below by a positive constant. Then every real solution $y$ has has an infinite increasing sequence of zeros $x_n\to+\infty$, and if $$ m_n=\max\{|f(x)|:x_n\leq x\leq x_{n+1}\}$$ then the sequence $m_n$ is increasing.

Proof. The infinite sequence of zeros is a well-known fact. Let $x_n$ be such a zero. Suppose that $f'(x_n)>0$. We compare $u(t)=y(x_n+t)$ with $v(t)=-y(x_n-t)$. Fot $t>0$ they satisfy the differential equations $$u''+V(x_n+t)u=0\quad\mbox{and}\quad v''(t)+V(x_n-t)v=0.$$ and the same boundary conditions at $t=0$. Since by assumption $V(x_n-t)\geq V(x_n+t)$, Sturm's compasrison theorem gives that the smallest positive zero $t_0=x_n-x_{n-1}$ of $v$ is at most the smallest positive zero of $u$, and on the interval $(0,t_0)$ we have $u(t)\geq v(t)$. So $$m_{n-1}=\max\{v(t):0<t<t_0\}\leq \{\max|u(t)|: 0<t<t_0\}\leq m_n.$$

The result for your problem follows since $e^x/(1+e^x)^2+\lambda^2$ is decreasing for $x>0$, while $\limsup_{n\to\infty}m_n=1$ for both real and imaginary parts of your solution, due to your normlization.

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  • $\begingroup$ Dear Alexandre, thank you very much for the solution! I still need to read it more carefully. Would you mind if my collaborator and I will send you via email our precise question? It is some, hopefully small, generalization of this question. $\endgroup$
    – Sasha
    Commented Jun 4, 2021 at 6:07
  • $\begingroup$ Also, not clear to me that you can use Eulers integral representation, since b-1 is very negative, maybe should use an appropriate contour integral instead. $\endgroup$
    – Sasha
    Commented Jun 4, 2021 at 6:50
  • $\begingroup$ I re-accepted it, but I don't think there is a need to actually delete it, it adds some insight. $\endgroup$
    – Sasha
    Commented Jun 4, 2021 at 16:46
  • $\begingroup$ @Sasha: I replaced my incorrect solution by a correct one. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 4, 2021 at 18:22
  • $\begingroup$ Thank you! I will try to understand details tomorrow. But it seems, if I understood correctly (need to check more carefully), that you explain that boundedness holds if V is decreasing, while using the technique from Pinelis's answer one can see that boundedness holds if V is increasing, so that the example that people seem to like, of a periodic potential, is "of a different nature". $\endgroup$
    – Sasha
    Commented Jun 4, 2021 at 19:34
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$\newcommand{\tb}{\tilde b}$Let us write $b,t,x,k$ instead of $|\lambda|,x,y,r$, respectively, so that for real $t\ge0$ \begin{equation*} x''(t)+V(t)x(t)=0, \tag{-1} \end{equation*} where \begin{equation*} V(t):=b^2+g(t),\quad g(t):=\frac{k e^{-t}}{(1+e^{-t})^2}. \tag{0} \end{equation*} Let us show that for all real $t\ge0$ and $k\ge0$ we have \begin{equation*} |x(t)|\le C(b)(|x(0)|+|x'(0)|), \tag{1} \end{equation*} where $C(b)>0$ is a real number depending only on $b>0$.

If $|x(0)|+|x'(0)|=0$, then $x(t)=0$ for all $t\ge0$, so that (1) is trivial. So, without loss of generality $x(0)\ge0$, and $x'(0)>0$ if $x(0)=0$.

Then, by Theorem1 (used with $a=0$ and $b_*=b$, since $V(t)\ge b^2$), for the smallest positive zero $t_1$ of $x$ we have \begin{equation} t_1\le\pi/b<\infty. \tag{2} \end{equation} It is now clear that the roots $t_j$ of $x$ in $(0,\infty)$ form a strictly increasing sequence: $t_1<t_2<\cdots$. Moreover, by (-1) and (0), $x$ is concave on each of the intervals $[0,t_1], [t_2,t_3],\dots$ and convex on each of the intervals $[t_1,t_2], [t_3,t_4],\dots$.

By inequality (13) of the mentioned paper, we have \begin{equation*} |x(t)|\le\sqrt{x(0)^2+x'(0)^2/b^2} \tag{1a} \end{equation*} for $t\in[0,t_1]$ if $x'(0)>0$, whence (1) holds. On the other hand, if $x'(0)\le0$ (while of course $x(0)\ge0$), then, by the concavity of $x$ on $[0,t_1]$, $x$ is decreasing on $[0,t_1]$ from $x(0)$ to $0$, so that (1) is trivial in this case. Thus, (1) holds on $[0,t_1]$ in any case.

Inequalities (2) and (1a) were based on the trivial estimate $V(t)\ge b^2$, which can be improved for $t\in[0,t_1]$ to $$V(t)\ge b^2+ke^{-t}/4\ge b^2+ke^{-t_1}/4\ge b^2+ke^{-\pi/b}/4=:\tb^2,$$ in view of (2), with $\tb\ge0$.
Next, by (-1), (0), and (1a) with $\tb$ in place of $b$, $|x''(t)|\le(b^2+k)\sqrt{x(0)^2+x'(0)^2/\tb^2}$.

If now $x'(0)>0$, then $x'(s)=0$ for some $s\in[0,t_1]$, and hence, in view of (2) with $\tb$ in place of $b$, \begin{equation*} |x'(t_1)|\le(b^2+k)\sqrt{x(0)^2+x'(0)^2/\tb^2}\,\pi/\tb\le C_1(b)(|x(0)|+|x'(0)|), \tag{3} \end{equation*} where $C_1(b)>0$ is a real number depending only on $b$. Similarly to (1a), for $t\in[t_1,t_2]$ we get $|x(t)|\le\sqrt{x(t_1)^2+x'(t_1)^2/b^2}$; but $x(t_1)=0$; so, for $t\in[t_1,t_2]$ \begin{equation*} |x(t)|\le|x'(t_1)|/b\le C(b)(|x(0)|+|x'(0)|) \tag{4} \end{equation*} by (3), where $C(b):=C_1(b)/b\in(0,\infty)$, so that $C(b)$ depends only on $b$.

Similarly to (4), for all natural $j$ and all $t\in[t_j,t_{j+1}]$ we get $|x(t)|\le|x'(t_j)|/b$.

So, it remains to show that $|x'(t_{j+1})|\le|x'(t_j)|$ for all natural $j$. In turn, in view of (-1) and because $g(t)$ is nonincreasing in $t\ge0$, inequality $|x'(t_j)|\ge|x'(t_{j+1})|$ immediately follows from

Lemma 1: Suppose that $f\colon[0,1]\to\mathbb R$ is concave and twice differentiable, $f(0)=f(1)=0$, and we have the implication \begin{equation*} 0\le s<t\le1\ \&\ f(s)=f(t)\implies f''(s)\le f''(t). \end{equation*} Then $0\le -f'(1)\le f'(0)$.

It remains to prove this lemma.

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  • $\begingroup$ Dear Iosif, thank you very much, this looks very good! I will try to understand all details tomorrow, as it is night here. Just a question now: Is it clear that your inequality (1) implies what I wanted? You bound in terms of values at 0... Sorry if this is trivial. $\endgroup$
    – Sasha
    Commented Jun 2, 2021 at 20:41
  • $\begingroup$ @Sasha : It should be clear that the bound must depend on the initial conditions. The crux here is that the bound does not depend on $k$ (your $r$) or $t$ (your $x$). $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 2, 2021 at 20:45
  • $\begingroup$ Thank you, I will think about it, but I have the "initial" condition at infinity, that $x(t) \sim e^{i \lambda t}$, so a-priori could be that it forces $x(0),x'(0)$ to be larger and larger as $r$ gets larger, and therefore your estimate will not yield the estimate I want... $\endgroup$
    – Sasha
    Commented Jun 2, 2021 at 20:48
  • $\begingroup$ (maybe, once I will understand your arguments, I can "reverse" them and give bound in a point at the past in terms of bound at a future point (?), and thus see that if $x(t) \sim e^{i \lambda t}$ then $x(0),x^{\prime} (0)$ can't be too big) $\endgroup$
    – Sasha
    Commented Jun 2, 2021 at 20:56
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    $\begingroup$ @Iosif Pinelis: Sorry, I do not see how your result is related to the question:-) Your estimate depends on $y(0)$ and $y′(0)$. (And numerical computation from your other answer indicates that solutions tend to a very small when $x→+\infty$). But in the question, normalization is at ∞, namely $y(x)∼e^{iλx}$. To achieve such behavior at infinity, you need to take HUGE $y(0)$ or $y(1)$. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 2, 2021 at 22:36
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Mathematica can solve this ODE, in terms of the hypergeometric function (click on the image to enlarge it):

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(By rescaling, without loss of generality $\lambda=1$.)

We now find the solution $Y$ with $Y(10\pi)=E(10\pi)$ and $Y'(10\pi)=E'(10\pi)$, where $E(x):=e^{ix}$ (Mathematica has difficulties computing values of $Y(x)$ for $x>30$):

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Here are graphs of $|Y|$ with $r=1$:

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and also with $r=100$:

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This seems to suggest that your conjecture is true.

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  • $\begingroup$ @AlexandreEremenko : I do not understand this comment. In particular, I do not know what you meant by "normalized at $0$". Anyhow, these pictures suggest the following: for both $r=100$ and $r=1$, the moduli of both solutions oscillate with a small amplitude about a strictly positive value for large $x$. For small or moderate $x$, the moduli become only smaller than (but of the same order of magnitude as) the moduli for large $x$. In this description, I do not recognize anything I see in your comment. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 3, 2021 at 0:14
  • $\begingroup$ what do you mean by "both solutions"? How do you choose them? (Any solution can be multiplied by a constant.) The question is about that (unique) solution which is $\sim e^{i\lambda x}$ as $x\to\infty$. What do your pictures show about THIS solution? $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 3, 2021 at 0:19
  • $\begingroup$ @AlexandreEremenko : (i) The two solutions are as described in the Mathematica notebook: obtained by choosing $(c_1,c_2)=(1,0)$ and $(c_1,c_2)=(0,1)$ in the general solution. (ii) How do you know that a solution with $y(x)\sim e^{i\lambda x}$ exists? is unique? (iii) Where did you see "very small for large $x$"? $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 3, 2021 at 0:32
  • $\begingroup$ 1. Why a solution with $y(x)∼e^{i\lambda x},x→∞$ exists and is unique. This is a general result of scattering theory (see the books I referred to). Roughly speaking, for large x the equation is essentially $y′′+\lambda^2 y=0$. Each solution of this last equation corresponds to a solution of the original equation which is close to it, by a kind of perturbation argument. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 3, 2021 at 0:58
  • $\begingroup$ To make a convincing plot one needs to go far to the right, so that the regime $y(x)\sim e^{i\lambda x}$ is reached. I would do this: 1) Choose r. 2) Choose $x_0$ so that the term with $r$ is very small. Start solving numerically backwards from this $x_0$, with initial condition $y(x_0)=0,y'(0)=\lambda$, and plot the result on $[0,x_0]$. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 3, 2021 at 2:10
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There is another method, which is the "almost explicit" approach. Write your problem under the form $$ \frac{d^2 y}{d^2t} + \left(\lambda^2+rq(t)\right)y=0. $$ Suppose $q\in C^4([0,\infty))$ and bounded this is satisfied by your problem of course. It turns out that there is a problem very close to this one which has an explicit solution, namely the two fundamental solutions are $v_1$ and $v_2$ are given by \begin{eqnarray*} v_1(t) &=&\sqrt{\frac{C(\lambda,0)}{C(\lambda,t)}}\cos\left(\lambda \int_0^t C(\lambda,s) ds\right)+ \frac{1}{2\lambda}\frac{dC}{dt}(\lambda,0)\frac{1}{C(\lambda,0)}v_2(t),\\ v_2(t) &=& \sqrt{\frac{1}{C(\lambda,0)C(\lambda,t)}}\sin \left(\lambda\int_0^t C (\lambda,s) ds\right). \end{eqnarray*} You note that $$v_2(0)=0, \quad \frac{dv_2}{dt}(0)=1, v_1(0)=1, \frac{dv_1}{dt}(0)=0,$$ and an explicit calculation shows that $$ \frac{d^2v_i}{dt^2} +\tilde q v_i =0 $$ with $$ \tilde q = \lambda^2 C -\frac34 \left(\frac{1}{C}\frac{dC}{dt}\right)^2 + \frac{1}{2C}\frac{d^2C}{dt^2} $$ Now choosing $C$ wisely, you obtain "almost" $\lambda^2+rq$, and so your solution is almost the correct one. You can make simple choices, such as $$ C=\frac{1}{1-\frac{r}{2\lambda^2}q(t)} $$ which gives $$ \tilde q = \lambda^2 + rq(t) + \text{residual terms} $$ the residual terms being bounded by $\frac1{\lambda^2}$ when $\lambda$ is large. In your particular example, if you compute what the remainder is, it is very well behaved, and so this is just a scattering estimate around a known profile, which in this case would be $v_1+iv_2$, since $C\to1$ at infinity.

The WKB method (in geometric optics) inspired choice is \begin{equation} A= \left(1+ \frac{r}{\lambda^2}q\right)^{-1/4}, \quad B =- \frac{1}{4} A^{3} \frac{d^2 A}{d t^2},\mbox{ and } C = \frac{1}{(A (1+\frac{1}{\lambda^2} B))^2}. \end{equation} In that case, you find that $$ |\tilde q - (\lambda^2 + rq)| \leq \frac{K}{\lambda^2} $$ where $K$ is controlled by the $C^4$ norm of $q$ (and is exact if $q$ is a polynomial of degree three, I think I remember)-- I assumed you where interested in something uniform in $\lambda$.

The point is that the fundamental solutions of your original problem are now very well approximated by these explicit (and bounded) solutions, for arbitrarily large $\lambda$.


To explain where this all comes from (WKB), try to solve the initial equation with solutions of the form $A(t)\exp(i \lambda \phi(t))$. You find $$y^\prime = A^\prime \exp(i \lambda \phi) + i \lambda A\phi^\prime \exp(i \lambda \phi),$$ and $$y^{\prime\prime} = (A^{\prime\prime} - A \lambda^2(\phi^\prime)^2) \exp(i \lambda \phi(t)) + i \lambda (2 A^\prime \phi^\prime +A \phi^{\prime\prime})\exp(i \lambda \phi).$$ So this imposes $2 A^\prime \phi^\prime +A \phi^{\prime\prime}=0$, which means $A=\frac{K}{\sqrt{\phi^\prime}}$. Then you want to solve $$ A^{\prime\prime} - A \lambda^2(\phi^\prime)^2 = -(\lambda^2 +rq)A, $$ that is, $$ \sqrt{\phi^\prime}\left(\frac1{\sqrt{\phi^\prime}}\right)^{\prime\prime} - \lambda^2(\phi^\prime)^2 = -(\lambda^2 +rq). $$ In the development above, $C=\phi^\prime$.

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  • $\begingroup$ Thank you. Looks like some Alchemy to me for now :) $\endgroup$
    – Sasha
    Commented Jun 5, 2021 at 19:10
  • $\begingroup$ @Sasha I have added a paragraph explaining the WKB Alchemy. Should have started with that perhaps. $\endgroup$
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  • $\begingroup$ Thank you! I will try to read. $\endgroup$
    – Sasha
    Commented Jun 5, 2021 at 20:11

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