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Notation: For each group $G$ define:

$Aut^{(0)}(G):=G$

$Aut^{(1)}(G):=Aut(G)$

$\forall n\geq 1~~~Aut^{(n+1)}(G):=Aut(Aut^{(n)}(G))$

Question: Consider $I\subseteq \omega$. Is there a group $G$ such that:

(1) $\forall i\in I~~~~~Aut^{(i)}(G)$ is an Abelian group.

(2) $\forall i\notin I~~~~~Aut^{(i)}(G)$ is a non-Abelian group.

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    $\begingroup$ Your question also makes sense for the transfinite continuation of the automorphism tower (see jdh.hamkins.org/everygroup), where one could consider sets of ordinals $I$. Let me add that it is an open question, for finite groups, whether the automorphism tower (up to $\omega$) is eventually periodic. $\endgroup$ Dec 10, 2013 at 10:20
  • $\begingroup$ @JoelDavidHamkins: It is very interesting. Thank you Prof. Hamkins $\endgroup$
    – user43940
    Dec 10, 2013 at 10:38
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    $\begingroup$ Related questions: mathoverflow.net/questions/5635, mathoverflow.net/questions/27861 $\endgroup$
    – Stefan Kohl
    Dec 10, 2013 at 11:08
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    $\begingroup$ Note that $G/Z(G)$ embeds in $Aut(G)$. Thus, if $1\in I$ then $G$ is 2-step nilpotent. In this case, one should be able to conclude that $Aut(G)$ is not abelian with a couple of exceptions. Using this, you should be able to prove that, with few exceptions, $I$ should be empty. $\endgroup$
    – Misha
    Dec 10, 2013 at 11:09
  • $\begingroup$ You’re not this Hans Adler logic.univie.ac.at/~adler/Homepage.html , or are you? $\endgroup$ Dec 10, 2013 at 12:16

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I have a partial answer, which would be a complete answer (that is to say a complete classification of all such sets $I$) if we assume Dickson's conjecture in number theory.

If $G$ is non-Abelian, then $Aut(G)$ is also non-Abelian. Specifically, for two non-commuting elements $a,b \in G$, the inner automorphisms $x \rightarrow a x a^{-1}$ and $x \rightarrow b x b^{-1}$ do not commute.

Hence, $I$ can only be either:

  • The empty set, by letting $G$ be a non-Abelian group;
  • $\mathbb{N}$, by letting $G$ be the trivial group or some 'ancestor' thereof;
  • A set of the form $\{ 0, 1, 2, \dots, n \}$ for some $n$.

In the third case, let $P(n)$ denote the proposition that there exists a group $G$ with the property that $Aut^n(G)$ is Abelian but $Aut^{n+1}(G)$ is non-Abelian. We clearly have $P(n) \implies P(n-1)$, by replacing $G$ with $Aut(G)$.

So, we want to show that $P(n)$ is true for arbitrarily large values of $n$.


Lemma 1: If $G$ is a finite non-cyclic Abelian group, then $Aut(G)$ is non-Abelian.

Proof: By the Structure Theorem for finitely-generated modules over a PID, we can express $G$ as a product of cyclic groups of prime power orders. Then, $G$ is non-cyclic if and only if the product contains cyclic groups of orders $p^a$ and $p^b$ for the same $p$. If we can find non-commuting automorphisms of $C_{p^a} \times C_{p^b}$, then we are done, since they would extend to non-commuting automorphisms of $G$.

Without loss of generality assume $a \geq b$. and consider these two automorphisms:

  • The automorphism $f : C_{p^a} \times C_{p^b} \rightarrow C_{p^a} \times C_{p^b}$ sending $(x,y)$ to $(x,y+x)$.
  • The automorphism $g : C_{p^a} \times C_{p^b} \rightarrow C_{p^a} \times C_{p^b}$ sending $(x,y)$ to $(x+p^{a-b}y,y)$.

These do not commute. In particular, $f(g(1,0)) = (1,1)$ whereas $g(f(1,0)) = (1+p^{a-b},1)$.


Lemma 2: If $G$ is a cyclic group that does not eventually become the trivial group under repeated iteration of $Aut$, then $G$ will eventually become non-Abelian.

Proof: Induction on the order of $G$. If $Aut(G)$ is non-cyclic, then $Aut(Aut(G))$ is non-Abelian by the previous lemma. If $Aut(G)$ is cyclic and $G$ is not the trivial group, then $Aut(G)$ is smaller than $G$ and we are done by induction.


We know precisely which cyclic groups lead to the trivial group (http://oeis.org/A117729). Any other cyclic group will thus eventually lead to a non-Abelian group.

Assuming Dickson's conjecture, we can find arbitrarily long Cunningham chains of the first kind. These are sequences $(p_1, \dots, p_m)$ of primes where $p_{i+1} = 2p_i + 1$. Note that under the iterated automorphism operator, we get a nice long sequence of cyclic groups:

$C_{2 p_m} \rightarrow C_{2 p_{m-1}} \rightarrow \dots \rightarrow C_{2 p_1}$

Also, if $m \geq 6$ then these groups do not belong to A117729, so must eventually lead to a non-Abelian group by Lemma 2.

Consequently, we establish proposition $P(n)$ for some $n \geq m$, and (assuming Dickson's conjecture) this gives us $P(n)$ for all $n \in \mathbb{N}$.

It's not hard to show a partial converse: if we restrict ourselves to finite groups, $P(n)$ is true for all $n$ if and only if there exist arbitrarily long Cunningham chains.


Without Dickson's conjecture, how far can we go? Well, starting with $G$ being the cyclic group of order $361736822347711983585853438$ (twice the largest element of the longest known Cunningham chain), it takes $19$ iterations to reach a non-Abelian group. Hence, $P(n)$ is true for $n \leq 18$.

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    $\begingroup$ Very nice and clearly explained. $\endgroup$
    – Joël
    Jan 4, 2014 at 1:25
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    $\begingroup$ The second paragraph is wrong. It would mean that G/Z(G) is non-abelian for every non-abelian G which is of course not true in general as witnessed by $Q_8$ for example. $\endgroup$ Jan 4, 2014 at 2:00
  • $\begingroup$ Oh I read it too fast. $\endgroup$
    – Joël
    Jan 4, 2014 at 4:51
  • $\begingroup$ Oops, there are non-Abelian groups with Abelian automorphism groups: mathoverflow.net/questions/9944/when-is-autg-abelian That kills my entire argument. $\endgroup$ Jan 4, 2014 at 10:08

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