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Babai, Kantor and Lubotzky proved in 1989 the following theorem (Sciencedirect link to article).

THEOREM 1.1. There is a constant $C$ such that every nonabelian finite simple group $G$ has a set $S$ of at most 7 generators for which the diameter of $\mathrm{Cay}(G,S)$ is at most $C\log|G|$.

Then they remark that

"A crude estimate for $C$ is $10^{10}$, but we will not include the bookkeeping required to estimate $C$."

This is my question.

"Is there a finite simple group $G$ for which there exists a generating set $S$ which satisfies the conditions in the above theorem for some reasonably small $C$ (comparing to the order of $G$)?"

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    $\begingroup$ How about $A_5$? $\endgroup$
    – user6976
    Commented Sep 8, 2019 at 8:33
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    $\begingroup$ Wouldn't a very large simple group also do the trick, since then $C$ would be small with respect to the order of $G$? $\endgroup$
    – verret
    Commented Sep 8, 2019 at 13:15

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There are two examples, $\mathrm{Alt}_n$ and $\mathrm{PSL}_2(q)$, in this paper (p.861).

For $\mathrm{Alt}_n$, the authors used 3 generators and achieved diameter at most $(1+o(1))4n\log n$.

For $\mathrm{PSL}_2(q)$, an upper bound is $12\log_4(q)$ (Every integer in $\{0 .. q\}$ can be represented by $(...(a_m·4+a_{m-1})4+...)4+a_0$, where $m < \log_4(q)+1$, and $a_k\in\{-1,0,1,2\}$ for $k\in\{0..m\}$. Representing each $a_k$ costs at most $2$ generators, and multiplying by $4$ costs $2$ generators. There are $3$ numbers need to be represented, as $\mathrm{PSL}_2(q)$ has $3$ degrees of freedom).

The bound can be improved to $12\log_5(q)$ if $q$ is a prime of which $5$ is a quadratic residue: just replace "multiplying by $4$" by "multiplying by $5$".

I believe there are much better bounds if we exploit the full power of $7$ generators.

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    $\begingroup$ Just to have the same "scale", in $G_n=\mathrm{Alt}_n$ one has $4n\log(n)\sim 4\log(|G_n|)$, and in $H_n=\mathrm{PSL}_2(q)$, $12\log_4(q)\sim (4/\log(4))\log(|H_n|)$. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Commented Sep 8, 2019 at 17:48
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks so much for your helps and specially for the above very useful examples $\endgroup$
    – khers
    Commented Sep 8, 2019 at 19:00

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