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I want to know if it is possible to express the operation

$$ \nabla \phi \times (\nabla \times \mathbf A) $$

as the divergence of second order tensor field $T$. Here $ \phi$ is a scalar field and $\mathbf A$ is a solenoidal vector field ($\nabla \cdot \mathbf A=0$)

I have used all possible identities and finally I can only get

$$ \nabla \phi \times (\nabla \times \mathbf A) = \nabla \phi \cdot(\nabla \mathbf A - \nabla \mathbf A^T) $$

Is it possible to find something like $ \nabla \phi \times (\nabla \times \mathbf A) = \nabla \cdot(\text{tensor}) $ ?


EDIT: I could derive an expression that may be equivalent to Carlo's answer.

$$ \nabla \phi \times (\nabla \times \mathbf A) = (\nabla \mathbf A-\nabla \mathbf A^T) \cdot \nabla \phi $$ Now, from the identity $\nabla \cdot (\phi \mathbf T)=\phi\nabla\cdot \mathbf T+ \mathbf T^T \nabla \phi$ we can write

$$ (\nabla \mathbf A^T-\nabla \mathbf A) \cdot \nabla \phi = -\nabla \cdot(\phi(\nabla \mathbf A - \nabla \mathbf A^T))+\phi\nabla\cdot(\nabla \mathbf A - \nabla \mathbf A^T) $$ Considering that $\nabla \cdot(\nabla \mathbf A)=\nabla^2 \mathbf A$ and $\nabla \cdot(\nabla \mathbf A^T)=\nabla (\nabla \cdot \mathbf A)=0 $:

$$ \nabla \phi \times (\nabla \times \mathbf A) = (\nabla \mathbf A^T-\nabla \mathbf A) \cdot \nabla \phi = -\nabla\cdot(\phi(\nabla \mathbf A-\nabla \mathbf A^T)+\phi\nabla^2 \mathbf A $$ This form is convenient since the LHS of the equation already contains $\nabla^2 \mathbf A$.

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    $\begingroup$ it is possible if the Laplacian of $\phi$ vanishes. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 3, 2018 at 20:13
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    $\begingroup$ Isn't the divergence $\mathrm{div}\boldsymbol{F}$ of a vector field $\boldsymbol{F}$ always a scalar? Your expression is a $3$-components vector field... $\endgroup$
    – Qfwfq
    Commented Aug 3, 2018 at 21:00
  • $\begingroup$ (...Unless maybe you define the divergence of a tensor field or something...) $\endgroup$
    – Qfwfq
    Commented Aug 3, 2018 at 21:03
  • $\begingroup$ Yes @Qfwfq, this something should be a second order tensor field. I have edited the question to be clearer. $\endgroup$
    – nodarkside
    Commented Aug 3, 2018 at 21:07

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Let me expand my comment that I think this is only possible if the Laplacian of $\phi$ vanishes.
The object we are considering is $$\mathbf V\equiv\nabla\phi\times(\nabla\times \mathbf A)=(\nabla \mathbf A)·\nabla \phi - (\nabla\phi)·\nabla \mathbf A.$$ Writing this in components, $$V_i=\sum_j(\partial_i A_j) (\partial_j\phi)-(\partial_j\phi)(\partial_j A_i),$$ using the chain rule and $\nabla\cdot\mathbf A=0$, $$V_i=\sum_j\partial_j(\phi\partial_i A_j)-\partial_j(A_i\partial_j\phi)+A_i(\partial_j\partial_j\phi),$$ hence we arrive at $$\mathbf V=\nabla\cdot\mathbf M^T+\mathbf A(\Delta\phi),$$ with $\Delta$ the Laplacian and the tensor $$\mathbf M=\phi\nabla\mathbf A-\mathbf A\nabla\phi.$$ This has the form required in the OP if the Laplacian of $\phi$ vanishes.

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  • $\begingroup$ Thanks @Carlo Beenakker. I could derive a similar expression that I think it is equivalent to yours. I am editing the question. $\endgroup$
    – nodarkside
    Commented Aug 6, 2018 at 15:29
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For me $\mathrm{div}$ transforms a $3$-components vector field on $\mathbb{R}^3$ into a scalar function on $\mathbb{R}^3$. So, being you expression $\boldsymbol{\nabla}\phi\times (\boldsymbol{\nabla}\times \boldsymbol{A})$ a $3$-component vector field (for $\boldsymbol{A}$ a vector field of course), your question as stated doesn't make sense. [Edit: after the OP's edit, it now makes sense as $\mathrm{div}$ of a tensor field]

Let me try to interpret what you want to ask. To do this, I will translate everything in the language of differential forms on a $3$-manifold $M$ (which could be $\mathbb{R}^3$).

Your expression corresponds to $d\phi\wedge d\alpha$ where $\phi$ is a smooth (scalar) function and $\alpha$ is a $1$-form on $M$. I think that you may want to ask whether the resulting $3$-form is exact, i.e. whether

$$d\phi \wedge d\alpha=d\omega$$

for a $2$-form $\omega$ on $M$. The answer is clearly yes: just take $\omega:=\phi d \alpha$.

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    $\begingroup$ Maybe an equivalent interpretation, closer to your question, is asking for a $1$-form $\beta$ on $M$ such that $d\phi\wedge d \alpha=d\ast \beta$ where $\ast$ is the Hodge star from a fixed Riemannian metric on $M$. $\endgroup$
    – Qfwfq
    Commented Aug 3, 2018 at 21:19
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks for your reply @Qfwfq ! Unfortunately I do not know very much about differential forms. Sorry... $\endgroup$
    – nodarkside
    Commented Aug 3, 2018 at 21:34
  • $\begingroup$ I have the impression I answered the question for $\boldsymbol{\nabla}\times (\textrm{tensor})$ rather than $\boldsymbol{\nabla}\cdot (\textrm{tensor})$ (whatever those definitions are), cause the exterior differential $d$ keeps increasing the number of "indices" whereas your $\boldsymbol{\nabla}\cdot$ certainly decreases it... $\endgroup$
    – Qfwfq
    Commented Aug 3, 2018 at 21:51
  • $\begingroup$ Certainly the divergence decreases by one the order of the tensor over which operates. I need the divergence since I'm using the finite volume method to solve them; therefore, the divergence is transformed into a sum by use of the Gauss theorem. $\endgroup$
    – nodarkside
    Commented Aug 3, 2018 at 21:59

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