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Actually even schoolchildren calculate group co-cycle. (Without knowing that it is called like this). Cohomology occurs in everyday life as soon as one learns to count.

5+7 = 1 2

4 + 5 = 0 9

2 + 8 = 1 0

What is the function on which sends a pair (a,b) to the $0$ or $1$ depending result is greater than 9 or not ? ( e.g. f(5,7)= 1, f(4,5) = 0, f(2,8)= 1).

This is actually a 2-cocycle for group $Z/nZ$ with values in $Z$.

It can be checked directly or...

Let us look on it more conceptually. Consider the standard short exact sequence of abelian groups $0 \to Z \to Z \to Z/nZ \to 0$. (First map is multiplication by $n$, the second is factorization and will be denoted by $p$).

Choose section $s: Z/nZ \to Z$ (i.e. any map such $ps=Id$, where $p: Z \to Z/nZ$, it is like connection in differential geometry (can be made precise)).

Define $f(a,b)=p(s(a)+s(b) - s(a+b))$$f(a,b)=s(a)+s(b) - s(a+b)$

Note that: a) this function $f(a,b)$ is exactly as we talked above

b) from general theory this is a 2-cocyle, (it corresponds to this extension, (it is like "curvature" of connection in differential geometry (can be made precise))).

That is all: we explained why it is group cocycle and what is its role.


I would like to learn this 20 years ago when I learned group cohomology as an undergraduate, but I learned this 1 year ago, doing some engineering work in wireless communication... I am still surprised that it is not written on the first page of any textbook which deals with group cohomology. When I am explaining this to my friends most of them did not know this also, and after knowing, they share my feeling of surprise.

Actually even schoolchildren calculate group co-cycle. (Without knowing that it is called like this). Cohomology occurs in everyday life as soon as one learns to count.

5+7 = 1 2

4 + 5 = 0 9

2 + 8 = 1 0

What is the function on which sends a pair (a,b) to the $0$ or $1$ depending result is greater than 9 or not ? ( e.g. f(5,7)= 1, f(4,5) = 0, f(2,8)= 1).

This is actually a 2-cocycle for group $Z/nZ$ with values in $Z$.

It can be checked directly or...

Let us look on it more conceptually. Consider the standard short exact sequence of abelian groups $0 \to Z \to Z \to Z/nZ \to 0$. (First map is multiplication by $n$, the second is factorization and will be denoted by $p$).

Choose section $s: Z/nZ \to Z$ (i.e. any map such $ps=Id$, where $p: Z \to Z/nZ$, it is like connection in differential geometry (can be made precise)).

Define $f(a,b)=p(s(a)+s(b) - s(a+b))$

Note that: a) this function $f(a,b)$ is exactly as we talked above

b) from general theory this is a 2-cocyle, (it corresponds to this extension, (it is like "curvature" of connection in differential geometry (can be made precise))).

That is all: we explained why it is group cocycle and what is its role.


I would like to learn this 20 years ago when I learned group cohomology as an undergraduate, but I learned this 1 ago, doing some engineering work in wireless communication... I am still surprised that it is not written on the first page of any textbook which deals with group cohomology. When I am explaining this to my friends most of them did not know this also, and after knowing, they share my feeling of surprise.

Actually even schoolchildren calculate group co-cycle. (Without knowing that it is called like this). Cohomology occurs in everyday life as soon as one learns to count.

5+7 = 1 2

4 + 5 = 0 9

2 + 8 = 1 0

What is the function on which sends a pair (a,b) to the $0$ or $1$ depending result is greater than 9 or not ? ( e.g. f(5,7)= 1, f(4,5) = 0, f(2,8)= 1).

This is actually a 2-cocycle for group $Z/nZ$ with values in $Z$.

It can be checked directly or...

Let us look on it more conceptually. Consider the standard short exact sequence of abelian groups $0 \to Z \to Z \to Z/nZ \to 0$. (First map is multiplication by $n$, the second is factorization and will be denoted by $p$).

Choose section $s: Z/nZ \to Z$ (i.e. any map such $ps=Id$, where $p: Z \to Z/nZ$, it is like connection in differential geometry (can be made precise)).

Define $f(a,b)=s(a)+s(b) - s(a+b)$

Note that: a) this function $f(a,b)$ is exactly as we talked above

b) from general theory this is a 2-cocyle, (it corresponds to this extension, (it is like "curvature" of connection in differential geometry (can be made precise))).

That is all: we explained why it is group cocycle and what is its role.


I would like to learn this 20 years ago when I learned group cohomology as an undergraduate, but I learned this 1 year ago, doing some engineering work in wireless communication... I am still surprised that it is not written on the first page of any textbook which deals with group cohomology. When I am explaining this to my friends most of them did not know this also, and after knowing, they share my feeling of surprise.

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Actually even schoolchildren calculate group co-cycle. (Without knowing that it is called like this). Cohomology occurs in everyday life as soon as one learns to count.

5+7 = 1 2

4 + 5 = 0 9

2 + 8 = 1 0

What is the function on which sends a pair (a,b) to the $0$ or $1$ depending result is greater than 9 or not ? ( e.g. f(5,7)= 1, f(4,5) = 0, f(2,8)= 1).

This is actually a 22-cocycle for group $Z/nZ$ with values in $Z$.

It can be checked directly or...

Let us look on it more conceptually. Consider the standard short exact sequence of abelian groups $0 \to Z \to Z \to Z/n \to 0$$0 \to Z \to Z \to Z/nZ \to 0$. (First map is multiplication by $n$, the second is factorization and will be denoted by $p$).

Choose section $s: Z/nZ \to Z$ (i.e. any map such $ps=Id$, where $p: Z \to Z/nZ$, it is like connection in differential geometry (can be made precise)).

Define $f(a,b)= s(a)+s(b) - s(a+b)$$f(a,b)=p(s(a)+s(b) - s(a+b))$

Note that: a) this function $f(a,b)$ is exactly as we talked above

b) from general theory this is a 2-cocyle,  (it corresponds to this extension, (it it is like "curvature" of connection isin differential geometygeometry (can be made precise))).

That is all: we explained why it is group cocycle and what is its role.


I would like to learn this 20 years ago when I learned group cohomology as an undergraduate, but I learned this 1 agoago, doing some engineering work in wireless communication... I am still surprised that it is not written on the first page of any textbook which deals with group cohomology, when. When I am explaining this to my friends most of them did not know this also, and after knowing, they share my feeling of surprise.

Actually even schoolchildren calculate group co-cycle. (Without knowing that it is called like this). Cohomology occurs in everyday life as soon as one learns to count.

5+7 = 1 2

4 + 5 = 0 9

2 + 8 = 1 0

What is the function on which sends a pair (a,b) to the $0$ or $1$ depending result is greater than 9 or not ? ( e.g. f(5,7)= 1, f(4,5) = 0, f(2,8)= 1).

This is actually a 2-cocycle for group $Z/nZ$ with values in $Z$.

It can be checked directly or...

Let us look on it more conceptually. Consider the standard short exact sequence of abelian groups $0 \to Z \to Z \to Z/n \to 0$. (First map is multiplication by $n$, the second is factorization and will be denoted by $p$).

Choose section $s: Z/nZ \to Z$ (i.e. any map such $ps=Id$, where $p: Z \to Z/nZ$, it is like connection in differential geometry (can be made precise)).

Define $f(a,b)= s(a)+s(b) - s(a+b)$

Note that: a) this function $f(a,b)$ is exactly we talked above

b) from general theory this is 2-cocyle,  (it corresponds to this extension, (it it is like "curvature" of connection is differential geomety (can be made precise)).

That is all: we explained why it is group cocycle and what its role.


I would like to learn this 20 years ago when I learned group cohomology as undergraduate, but I learned this 1 ago, doing some engineering work in wireless communication... I am still surprised that it is not written on the first page of any textbook which deals with group cohomology, when I am explaining this to my friends most did not know this also and after knowing share my feeling of surprise.

Actually even schoolchildren calculate group co-cycle. (Without knowing that it is called like this). Cohomology occurs in everyday life as soon as one learns to count.

5+7 = 1 2

4 + 5 = 0 9

2 + 8 = 1 0

What is the function on which sends a pair (a,b) to the $0$ or $1$ depending result is greater than 9 or not ? ( e.g. f(5,7)= 1, f(4,5) = 0, f(2,8)= 1).

This is actually a 2-cocycle for group $Z/nZ$ with values in $Z$.

It can be checked directly or...

Let us look on it more conceptually. Consider the standard short exact sequence of abelian groups $0 \to Z \to Z \to Z/nZ \to 0$. (First map is multiplication by $n$, the second is factorization and will be denoted by $p$).

Choose section $s: Z/nZ \to Z$ (i.e. any map such $ps=Id$, where $p: Z \to Z/nZ$, it is like connection in differential geometry (can be made precise)).

Define $f(a,b)=p(s(a)+s(b) - s(a+b))$

Note that: a) this function $f(a,b)$ is exactly as we talked above

b) from general theory this is a 2-cocyle, (it corresponds to this extension, (it is like "curvature" of connection in differential geometry (can be made precise))).

That is all: we explained why it is group cocycle and what is its role.


I would like to learn this 20 years ago when I learned group cohomology as an undergraduate, but I learned this 1 ago, doing some engineering work in wireless communication... I am still surprised that it is not written on the first page of any textbook which deals with group cohomology. When I am explaining this to my friends most of them did not know this also, and after knowing, they share my feeling of surprise.

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Actually even schoolchildren calculate group co-cycle. (Without knowing that it is called like this). Cohomology occurs in everyday life as soon as one learns to count.

5+7 = 1 2

4 + 5 = 0 9

2 + 8 = 1 0

What is the function on which sends a pair (a,b) to the $0$ or $1$ depending result is greater than 9 or not ? ( e.g. f(5,7)= 1, f(4,5) = 0, f(2,8)= 1).

This is actually a 2-cocycle for group $Z/nZ$ with values in $Z$.

It can be checked directly or...

Let us look on it more conceptually. Consider the standard short exact sequence of abelian groups $0->Z->Z->Z/n->0$$0 \to Z \to Z \to Z/n \to 0$. (First map is multiplication by $n$, the second is factorization and will be denoted by $p$).

Choose section $s: Z/nZ -> Z$$s: Z/nZ \to Z$ (i.e. any map such $ps=Id$, where $p: Z->Z/nZ$$p: Z \to Z/nZ$, it is like connection in differential geometry (can be made precise)).

Define $f(a,b)= s(a)+s(b) - s(a+b)$

Note that: a) this function $f(a,b)$ is exactly we talked above

b) from general theory this is 2-cocyle, (it corresponds to this extension, (it it is like "curvature" of connection is differential geomety (can be made precise)).

That is all: we explained why it is group cocycle and what its role.


I would like to learn this 20 years ago when I learned group cohomology as undergraduate, but I learned this 1 ago, doing some engineering work in wireless communication... I am still surprised that it is not written on the first page of any textbook which deals with group cohomology, when I am explaining this to my friends most did not know this also and after knowing share my feeling of surprise.

Actually even schoolchildren calculate group co-cycle. (Without knowing that it is called like this). Cohomology occurs in everyday life as soon as one learns to count.

5+7 = 1 2

4 + 5 = 0 9

2 + 8 = 1 0

What is the function on which sends a pair (a,b) to the $0$ or $1$ depending result is greater than 9 or not ? ( e.g. f(5,7)= 1, f(4,5) = 0, f(2,8)= 1).

This is actually a 2-cocycle for group $Z/nZ$ with values in $Z$.

It can be checked directly or...

Let us look on it more conceptually. Consider the standard short exact sequence of abelian groups $0->Z->Z->Z/n->0$. (First map is multiplication by $n$, the second is factorization and will be denoted by $p$).

Choose section $s: Z/nZ -> Z$ (i.e. any map such $ps=Id$, where $p: Z->Z/nZ$, it is like connection in differential geometry (can be made precise)).

Define $f(a,b)= s(a)+s(b) - s(a+b)$

Note that: a) this function $f(a,b)$ is exactly we talked above

b) from general theory this is 2-cocyle, (it corresponds to this extension, (it it is like "curvature" of connection is differential geomety (can be made precise)).

That is all: we explained why it is group cocycle and what its role.


I would like to learn this 20 years ago when I learned group cohomology as undergraduate, but I learned this 1 ago, doing some engineering work in wireless communication... I am still surprised that it is not written on the first page of any textbook which deals with group cohomology, when I am explaining this to my friends most did not know this also and after knowing share my feeling of surprise.

Actually even schoolchildren calculate group co-cycle. (Without knowing that it is called like this). Cohomology occurs in everyday life as soon as one learns to count.

5+7 = 1 2

4 + 5 = 0 9

2 + 8 = 1 0

What is the function on which sends a pair (a,b) to the $0$ or $1$ depending result is greater than 9 or not ? ( e.g. f(5,7)= 1, f(4,5) = 0, f(2,8)= 1).

This is actually a 2-cocycle for group $Z/nZ$ with values in $Z$.

It can be checked directly or...

Let us look on it more conceptually. Consider the standard short exact sequence of abelian groups $0 \to Z \to Z \to Z/n \to 0$. (First map is multiplication by $n$, the second is factorization and will be denoted by $p$).

Choose section $s: Z/nZ \to Z$ (i.e. any map such $ps=Id$, where $p: Z \to Z/nZ$, it is like connection in differential geometry (can be made precise)).

Define $f(a,b)= s(a)+s(b) - s(a+b)$

Note that: a) this function $f(a,b)$ is exactly we talked above

b) from general theory this is 2-cocyle, (it corresponds to this extension, (it it is like "curvature" of connection is differential geomety (can be made precise)).

That is all: we explained why it is group cocycle and what its role.


I would like to learn this 20 years ago when I learned group cohomology as undergraduate, but I learned this 1 ago, doing some engineering work in wireless communication... I am still surprised that it is not written on the first page of any textbook which deals with group cohomology, when I am explaining this to my friends most did not know this also and after knowing share my feeling of surprise.

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