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So here is my comment again with slightly more details. Let $Y$ be a finite subset of $G$ such that its image generates $K$. As I was told by Yves, finite type means finitely generated. Thus, let $X$ be a finite subset of $N$ such that $N^{ab}$ is generated by its image as a $\mathbb{Z}_p[[K]]$-module. Then we claim that $H$ the subgroup generated (topologically) by $X \cup Y$ is equal $G$. Since $Y \subseteq H$ we have that $HN/N \cong $K$$HN/N \cong K$.

Therefore, $HN=G$. So it suffices to show that $N \leq H$. By definition, the action of $K$ on $N^{ab}$ is via the action of $G$. Since $N$ acts trivially on $N^{ab}$ we have that $H$ action on $N^{ab}$ is the same as $HN=G$ action. Hence, the image of $Y^{H}$ generates $N^{ab}$ as a $\mathbb{Z_p}$-module. So $Y^{H}$ generates $N/\Phi(N)$ as a group, where $\Phi(N)=[N,N]N^{p}$ is the Frattini subgroup of $N$. We deduce that $Y^{H}$ generates $N$ (topologically) and $N \leq H$ as we wanted.

Note that it suficessuffices to ask that $N/([N,N]N^{p})$ (EDIT: see comments below) is finitely generatdgenerated as a $K$-module.

So here is my comment again with slightly more details. Let $Y$ be a finite subset of $G$ such that its image generates $K$. As I was told by Yves, finite type means finitely generated. Thus, let $X$ be a finite subset of $N$ such that $N^{ab}$ is generated by its image as a $\mathbb{Z}_p[[K]]$-module. Then we claim that $H$ the subgroup generated (topologically) by $X \cup Y$ is equal $G$. Since $Y \subseteq H$ we have that $HN/N \cong $K$.

Therefore, $HN=G$. So it suffices to show that $N \leq H$. By definition, the action of $K$ on $N^{ab}$ is via the action of $G$. Since $N$ acts trivially on $N^{ab}$ we have that $H$ action on $N^{ab}$ is the same as $HN=G$ action. Hence, the image of $Y^{H}$ generates $N^{ab}$ as a $\mathbb{Z_p}$-module. So $Y^{H}$ generates $N/\Phi(N)$ as a group, where $\Phi(N)=[N,N]N^{p}$ is the Frattini subgroup of $N$. We deduce that $Y^{H}$ generates $N$ (topologically) and $N \leq H$ as we wanted.

Note that it sufices to ask that $N/([N,N]N^{p})$ (EDIT: see comments below) is finitely generatd as a $K$-module.

So here is my comment again with slightly more details. Let $Y$ be a finite subset of $G$ such that its image generates $K$. As I was told by Yves, finite type means finitely generated. Thus, let $X$ be a finite subset of $N$ such that $N^{ab}$ is generated by its image as a $\mathbb{Z}_p[[K]]$-module. Then we claim that $H$ the subgroup generated (topologically) by $X \cup Y$ is equal $G$. Since $Y \subseteq H$ we have that $HN/N \cong K$.

Therefore, $HN=G$. So it suffices to show that $N \leq H$. By definition, the action of $K$ on $N^{ab}$ is via the action of $G$. Since $N$ acts trivially on $N^{ab}$ we have that $H$ action on $N^{ab}$ is the same as $HN=G$ action. Hence, the image of $Y^{H}$ generates $N^{ab}$ as a $\mathbb{Z_p}$-module. So $Y^{H}$ generates $N/\Phi(N)$ as a group, where $\Phi(N)=[N,N]N^{p}$ is the Frattini subgroup of $N$. We deduce that $Y^{H}$ generates $N$ (topologically) and $N \leq H$ as we wanted.

Note that it suffices to ask that $N/([N,N]N^{p})$ (EDIT: see comments below) is finitely generated as a $K$-module.

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Yiftach Barnea
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So here is my comment again with slightly more details. Let $Y$ be a finite subset of $G$ such that its image generates $K$. As I was told by Yves, finite type means finitely generated. Thus, let $X$ be a finite subset of $N$ such that $N^{ab}$ is generated by its image as a $\mathbb{Z}_p[[K]]$-module. Then we claim that $H$ the subgroup generated (topologically) by $X \cup Y$ is equal $G$. Since $Y \subseteq H$ we have that $HN/N \cong $K$.

Therefore, $HN=G$. So it suffices to show that $N \leq H$. By definition, the action of $K$ on $N^{ab}$ is via the action of $G$. Since $N$ acts trivially on $N^{ab}$ we have that $H$ action on $N^{ab}$ is the same as $HN=G$ action. Hence, the image of $Y^{H}$ generates $N^{ab}$ as a $\mathbb{Z_p}$-module. So $Y^{H}$ generates $N/\Phi(N)$ as a group, where $\Phi(N)=[N,N]N^{p}$ is the Frattini subgroup of $N$. We deduce that $Y^{H}$ generates $N$ (topologically) and $N \leq H$ as we wanted.

Note that it sufices to ask that $N/([N,K]N^{p})$$N/([N,N]N^{p})$ (EDIT: see comments below) is finitely generatd as a $K$-module.

So here is my comment again with slightly more details. Let $Y$ be a finite subset of $G$ such that its image generates $K$. As I was told by Yves, finite type means finitely generated. Thus, let $X$ be a finite subset of $N$ such that $N^{ab}$ is generated by its image as a $\mathbb{Z}_p[[K]]$-module. Then we claim that $H$ the subgroup generated (topologically) by $X \cup Y$ is equal $G$. Since $Y \subseteq H$ we have that $HN/N \cong $K$.

Therefore, $HN=G$. So it suffices to show that $N \leq H$. By definition, the action of $K$ on $N^{ab}$ is via the action of $G$. Since $N$ acts trivially on $N^{ab}$ we have that $H$ action on $N^{ab}$ is the same as $HN=G$ action. Hence, the image of $Y^{H}$ generates $N^{ab}$ as a $\mathbb{Z_p}$-module. So $Y^{H}$ generates $N/\Phi(N)$ as a group, where $\Phi(N)=[N,N]N^{p}$ is the Frattini subgroup of $N$. We deduce that $Y^{H}$ generates $N$ (topologically) and $N \leq H$ as we wanted.

Note that it sufices to ask that $N/([N,K]N^{p})$ is finitely generatd as a $K$-module.

So here is my comment again with slightly more details. Let $Y$ be a finite subset of $G$ such that its image generates $K$. As I was told by Yves, finite type means finitely generated. Thus, let $X$ be a finite subset of $N$ such that $N^{ab}$ is generated by its image as a $\mathbb{Z}_p[[K]]$-module. Then we claim that $H$ the subgroup generated (topologically) by $X \cup Y$ is equal $G$. Since $Y \subseteq H$ we have that $HN/N \cong $K$.

Therefore, $HN=G$. So it suffices to show that $N \leq H$. By definition, the action of $K$ on $N^{ab}$ is via the action of $G$. Since $N$ acts trivially on $N^{ab}$ we have that $H$ action on $N^{ab}$ is the same as $HN=G$ action. Hence, the image of $Y^{H}$ generates $N^{ab}$ as a $\mathbb{Z_p}$-module. So $Y^{H}$ generates $N/\Phi(N)$ as a group, where $\Phi(N)=[N,N]N^{p}$ is the Frattini subgroup of $N$. We deduce that $Y^{H}$ generates $N$ (topologically) and $N \leq H$ as we wanted.

Note that it sufices to ask that $N/([N,N]N^{p})$ (EDIT: see comments below) is finitely generatd as a $K$-module.

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Yiftach Barnea
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So here is my comment again with slightly more details. Let $Y$ be a finite subset of $G$ such that its image generates $K$. As I was told by Yves, finite type means finitely generated. Thus, let $X$ be a finite subset of $N$ such that $N^{ab}$ is generated by its image as a $\mathbb{Z}_p[[K]]$-module. Then we claim that $H$ the subgroup generated (topologically) by $X \cup Y$ is equal $G$. Since $Y \subseteq H$ we have that $HN/N \cong $K$.

Therefore, $HN=G$. So it suffices to show that $N \leq H$. By definition, the action of $K$ on $N^{ab}$ is via the action of $G$. Since $N$ acts trivially on $N^{ab}$ we have that $H$ action on $N^{ab}$ is the same as $HN=G$ action. Hence, the image of $Y^{H}$ generates $N^{ab}$ as a $\mathbb{Z_p}$-module. So $Y^{H}$ generates $N/\Phi(N)$ as a group, where $\Phi(N)=[N,N]N^{p}$ is the Frattini subgroup of $N$. We deduce that $Y^{H}$ generates $N$ (topologically) and $N \leq H$ as we wanted.

Note that it sufices to ask that $N/([N,K]N^{p})$ is finitely generatd as a $K$-module.