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This is a comment to 23950's question.

To me, it seems like you are asking two different questions.
(1) How does height of an ideal in a ring related to height of it image in a factor ring?
(2) How does height behave under localizations?

For 1): I don't think it behaves well in general. If a ring is caterary and equidimensional than it behaves better. For example, Lemma 2, p. 250, Matsumura, Commutative Ring Theory, says

  • If an equidimensional local ring $(A,m)$ is catenary then ht $p_2$ = ht $p_1$ + ht $(p_2/p_1)$ for all $p_1,p_2 \in$ Spec $A$ with $p_1 \subset p_2$.

For 2): Consider, $R = k[x,y,z]$ and $I = (xz,yz)$. Notice that ht $I = 1$ since $I \subset (z)$. Localize at $z$. Then $R_z = k[x,y,z,z/1]$ and $IR_z = (xz,yz)R_z = (x,y)R_z$. Hence ht $IR_z = 2$. This is a famous example that R/I is not Cohen-Macaulay at $(x,y,z)$ since it is not equidimensional (a line passes though a plane).

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This is to answer the question below Height of ideal in graded ringHeight of ideal in graded ring .

Hi. Assume ht $I \neq $ ht $I'$. We can find a homogeneous prime $q$ of the same height as $I'$. By going modulo $q$ we may assume the following

  • $R$ is graded,
  • $I$ is not zero, $I' = 0$,
  • $q = 0$.

Now we goto the localization $R_{(0)}$ as introduced by Thomas above. Since $I$ is not zero this ring is isomorphic to $k[t,t^{-1}]$ which is a PID. Hence $IR_{(0)}$ is of height $1$ and contained in a maximal ideal Q of height $1$. Here you can see $Q' = 0$. This shows that the preimage of $Q$ in $R$ contains $I$ and its $'$ is $q$. Now use 1.5.8b in Brunz-Herzog's book.

In other words, there exists a prime ideal $Q$ in $R$ such that $q = Q'$ and $I \subset Q$. Hence ht $I -1 \le$ ht $Q -1 = $ ht $q = $ ht $I'$ where the equality ht $Q - 1 = $ ht $q$ is from 1.5.8b.

This is a comment to 23950's question.

To me, it seems like you are asking two different questions.
(1) How does height of an ideal in a ring related to height of it image in a factor ring?
(2) How does height behave under localizations?

For 1): I don't think it behaves well in general. If a ring is caterary and equidimensional than it behaves better. For example, Lemma 2, p. 250, Matsumura, Commutative Ring Theory, says

  • If an equidimensional local ring $(A,m)$ is catenary then ht $p_2$ = ht $p_1$ + ht $(p_2/p_1)$ for all $p_1,p_2 \in$ Spec $A$ with $p_1 \subset p_2$.

For 2): Consider, $R = k[x,y,z]$ and $I = (xz,yz)$. Notice that ht $I = 1$ since $I \subset (z)$. Localize at $z$. Then $R_z = k[x,y,z,z/1]$ and $IR_z = (xz,yz)R_z = (x,y)R_z$. Hence ht $IR_z = 2$. This is a famous example that R/I is not Cohen-Macaulay at $(x,y,z)$ since it is not equidimensional (a line passes though a plane).

--------------------------------------------------------------- added June 3rd 2012

This is to answer the question below Height of ideal in graded ring .

Hi. Assume ht $I \neq $ ht $I'$. We can find a homogeneous prime $q$ of the same height as $I'$. By going modulo $q$ we may assume the following

  • $R$ is graded,
  • $I$ is not zero, $I' = 0$,
  • $q = 0$.

Now we goto the localization $R_{(0)}$ as introduced by Thomas above. Since $I$ is not zero this ring is isomorphic to $k[t,t^{-1}]$ which is a PID. Hence $IR_{(0)}$ is of height $1$ and contained in a maximal ideal Q of height $1$. Here you can see $Q' = 0$. This shows that the preimage of $Q$ in $R$ contains $I$ and its $'$ is $q$. Now use 1.5.8b in Brunz-Herzog's book.

In other words, there exists a prime ideal $Q$ in $R$ such that $q = Q'$ and $I \subset Q$. Hence ht $I -1 \le$ ht $Q -1 = $ ht $q = $ ht $I'$ where the equality ht $Q - 1 = $ ht $q$ is from 1.5.8b.

This is a comment to 23950's question.

To me, it seems like you are asking two different questions.
(1) How does height of an ideal in a ring related to height of it image in a factor ring?
(2) How does height behave under localizations?

For 1): I don't think it behaves well in general. If a ring is caterary and equidimensional than it behaves better. For example, Lemma 2, p. 250, Matsumura, Commutative Ring Theory, says

  • If an equidimensional local ring $(A,m)$ is catenary then ht $p_2$ = ht $p_1$ + ht $(p_2/p_1)$ for all $p_1,p_2 \in$ Spec $A$ with $p_1 \subset p_2$.

For 2): Consider, $R = k[x,y,z]$ and $I = (xz,yz)$. Notice that ht $I = 1$ since $I \subset (z)$. Localize at $z$. Then $R_z = k[x,y,z,z/1]$ and $IR_z = (xz,yz)R_z = (x,y)R_z$. Hence ht $IR_z = 2$. This is a famous example that R/I is not Cohen-Macaulay at $(x,y,z)$ since it is not equidimensional (a line passes though a plane).

--------------------------------------------------------------- added June 3rd 2012

This is to answer the question below Height of ideal in graded ring .

Hi. Assume ht $I \neq $ ht $I'$. We can find a homogeneous prime $q$ of the same height as $I'$. By going modulo $q$ we may assume the following

  • $R$ is graded,
  • $I$ is not zero, $I' = 0$,
  • $q = 0$.

Now we goto the localization $R_{(0)}$ as introduced by Thomas above. Since $I$ is not zero this ring is isomorphic to $k[t,t^{-1}]$ which is a PID. Hence $IR_{(0)}$ is of height $1$ and contained in a maximal ideal Q of height $1$. Here you can see $Q' = 0$. This shows that the preimage of $Q$ in $R$ contains $I$ and its $'$ is $q$. Now use 1.5.8b in Brunz-Herzog's book.

In other words, there exists a prime ideal $Q$ in $R$ such that $q = Q'$ and $I \subset Q$. Hence ht $I -1 \le$ ht $Q -1 = $ ht $q = $ ht $I'$ where the equality ht $Q - 1 = $ ht $q$ is from 1.5.8b.

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This is a comment to navigetor23's23950's question.

To me, it seems like you are asking two different questions.
(1) How does height of an ideal in a ring related to height of it image in a factor ring?
(2) How does height behave under localizations?

For 1): I don't think it behaves well in general. If a ring is caterary and equidimensional than it behaves better. For example, Lemma 2, p. 250, Matsumura, Commutative Ring Theory, says

  • If an equidimensional local ring $(A,m)$ is catenary then ht $p_2$ = ht $p_1$ + ht $(p_2/p_1)$ for all $p_1,p_2 \in$ Spec $A$ with $p_1 \subset p_2$.

For 2): Consider, $R = k[x,y,z]$ and $I = (xz,yz)$. Notice that ht $I = 1$ since $I \subset (z)$. Localize at $z$. Then $R_z = k[x,y,z,z/1]$ and $IR_z = (xz,yz)R_z = (x,y)R_z$. Hence ht $IR_z = 2$. This is a famous example that R/I is not Cohen-Macaulay at $(x,y,z)$ since it is not equidimensional (a line passes though a plane).

--------------------------------------------------------------- added June 3rd 2012

This is to answer the question below Height of ideal in graded ring .

Hi. Assume ht $I \neq $ ht $I'$. We can find a homogeneous prime $q$ of the same height as $I'$. By going modulo $q$ we may assume the following

  • $R$ is graded,
  • $I$ is not zero, $I' = 0$,
  • $q = 0$.

Now we goto the localization $R_{(0)}$ as introduced by Thomas above. Since $I$ is not zero this ring is isomorphic to $k[t,t^{-1}]$ which is a PID. Hence $IR_{(0)}$ is of height $1$ and contained in a maximal ideal Q of height $1$. Here you can see $Q' = 0$. This shows that the preimage of $Q$ in $R$ contains $I$ and its $'$ is q$q$. Now use 1.5.8b in Brunz-Herzog's book.

In other words, there exists a prime ideal $Q$ in $R$ such that $q = Q^'$$q = Q'$ and $I \subset Q$. Hence ht $I -1 \le$ ht $Q -1 = $ ht $q = $ ht $I'$ where the equality ht $Q - 1 = $ ht $q$ is from 1.5.8b.

This is a comment to navigetor23's question.

To me, it seems like you are asking two different questions.
(1) How does height of an ideal in a ring related to height of it image in a factor ring?
(2) How does height behave under localizations?

For 1): I don't think it behaves well in general. If a ring is caterary and equidimensional than it behaves better. For example, Lemma 2, p. 250, Matsumura, Commutative Ring Theory, says

  • If an equidimensional local ring $(A,m)$ is catenary then ht $p_2$ = ht $p_1$ + ht $(p_2/p_1)$ for all $p_1,p_2 \in$ Spec $A$ with $p_1 \subset p_2$.

For 2): Consider, $R = k[x,y,z]$ and $I = (xz,yz)$. Notice that ht $I = 1$ since $I \subset (z)$. Localize at $z$. Then $R_z = k[x,y,z,z/1]$ and $IR_z = (xz,yz)R_z = (x,y)R_z$. Hence ht $IR_z = 2$. This is a famous example that R/I is not Cohen-Macaulay at $(x,y,z)$ since it is not equidimensional (a line passes though a plane).

--------------------------------------------------------------- added June 3rd 2012

This is to answer the question below Height of ideal in graded ring .

Hi. Assume ht $I \neq $ ht $I'$. We can find a homogeneous prime $q$ of the same height as $I'$. By going modulo $q$ we may assume the following

  • $R$ is graded,
  • $I$ is not zero, $I' = 0$,
  • $q = 0$.

Now we goto the localization $R_{(0)}$ as introduced by Thomas above. Since $I$ is not zero this ring is isomorphic to $k[t,t^{-1}]$ which is a PID. Hence $IR_{(0)}$ is of height $1$ and contained in a maximal ideal Q of height $1$. Here you can see $Q' = 0$. This shows that the preimage of $Q$ in $R$ contains $I$ and its $'$ is q. Now use 1.5.8b in Brunz-Herzog's book.

In other words, there exists a prime ideal $Q$ in $R$ such that $q = Q^'$ and $I \subset Q$. Hence ht $I -1 \le$ ht $Q -1 = $ ht $q = $ ht $I'$ where the equality ht $Q - 1 = $ ht $q$ is from 1.5.8b.

This is a comment to 23950's question.

To me, it seems like you are asking two different questions.
(1) How does height of an ideal in a ring related to height of it image in a factor ring?
(2) How does height behave under localizations?

For 1): I don't think it behaves well in general. If a ring is caterary and equidimensional than it behaves better. For example, Lemma 2, p. 250, Matsumura, Commutative Ring Theory, says

  • If an equidimensional local ring $(A,m)$ is catenary then ht $p_2$ = ht $p_1$ + ht $(p_2/p_1)$ for all $p_1,p_2 \in$ Spec $A$ with $p_1 \subset p_2$.

For 2): Consider, $R = k[x,y,z]$ and $I = (xz,yz)$. Notice that ht $I = 1$ since $I \subset (z)$. Localize at $z$. Then $R_z = k[x,y,z,z/1]$ and $IR_z = (xz,yz)R_z = (x,y)R_z$. Hence ht $IR_z = 2$. This is a famous example that R/I is not Cohen-Macaulay at $(x,y,z)$ since it is not equidimensional (a line passes though a plane).

--------------------------------------------------------------- added June 3rd 2012

This is to answer the question below Height of ideal in graded ring .

Hi. Assume ht $I \neq $ ht $I'$. We can find a homogeneous prime $q$ of the same height as $I'$. By going modulo $q$ we may assume the following

  • $R$ is graded,
  • $I$ is not zero, $I' = 0$,
  • $q = 0$.

Now we goto the localization $R_{(0)}$ as introduced by Thomas above. Since $I$ is not zero this ring is isomorphic to $k[t,t^{-1}]$ which is a PID. Hence $IR_{(0)}$ is of height $1$ and contained in a maximal ideal Q of height $1$. Here you can see $Q' = 0$. This shows that the preimage of $Q$ in $R$ contains $I$ and its $'$ is $q$. Now use 1.5.8b in Brunz-Herzog's book.

In other words, there exists a prime ideal $Q$ in $R$ such that $q = Q'$ and $I \subset Q$. Hence ht $I -1 \le$ ht $Q -1 = $ ht $q = $ ht $I'$ where the equality ht $Q - 1 = $ ht $q$ is from 1.5.8b.

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This is a comment to yesterdays'navigetor23's question.

To me, it seems like you are asking two different questions.
(1) How does height of an ideal in a ring related to height of it image in a factor ring?
(2) How does height behave under localizations?

For 1): I don't think it behaves well in general. If a ring is caterary and equidimensional than it behaves better. For example, Lemma 2, p. 250, Matsumura, Commutative Ring Theory, says

  • If an equidimensional local ring $(A,m)$ is catenary then ht $p_2$ = ht $p_1$ + ht $(p_2/p_1)$ for all $p_1,p_2 \in$ Spec $A$ with $p_1 \subset p_2$.

For 2): Consider, $R = k[x,y,z]$ and $I = (xz,yz)$. Notice that ht $I = 1$ since $I \subset (z)$. Localize at $z$. Then $R_z = k[x,y,z,z/1]$ and $IR_z = (xz,yz)R_z = (x,y)R_z$. Hence ht $IR_z = 2$. This is a famous example that R/I is not Cohen-Macaulay at $(x,y,z)$ since it is not equidimensional (a line passes though a plane).

--------------------------------------------------------------- added June 3rd 2012

This is to answer the question below Height of ideal in graded ring .

Hi. Assume ht $I \neq $ ht $I'$. We can find a homogeneous prime $q$ of the same height as $I'$. By going modulo $q$ we may assume the following

  • $R$ is graded,
  • $I$ is not zero, $I' = 0$,
  • $q = 0$.

Now we goto the localization $R_{(0)}$ as introduced by Thomas above. Since $I$ is not zero this ring is isomorphic to $k[t,t^{-1}]$ which is a PID. Hence $IR_{(0)}$ is of height $1$ and contained in a maximal ideal Q of height $1$. Here you can see $Q' = 0$. This shows that the preimage of $Q$ in $R$ contains $I$ and its $'$ is q. Now use 1.5.8b in Brunz-Herzog's book.

In other words, there exists a prime ideal $Q$ in $R$ such that $q = Q^'$ and $I \subset Q$. Hence ht $I -1 \le$ ht $Q -1 = $ ht $q = $ ht $I'$ where the equality ht $Q - 1 = $ ht $q$ is from 1.5.8b.

This is a comment to yesterdays' question.

To me, it seems like you are asking two different questions.
(1) How does height of an ideal in a ring related to height of it image in a factor ring?
(2) How does height behave under localizations?

For 1): I don't think it behaves well in general. If a ring is caterary and equidimensional than it behaves better. For example, Lemma 2, p. 250, Matsumura, Commutative Ring Theory, says

  • If an equidimensional local ring $(A,m)$ is catenary then ht $p_2$ = ht $p_1$ + ht $(p_2/p_1)$ for all $p_1,p_2 \in$ Spec $A$ with $p_1 \subset p_2$.

For 2): Consider, $R = k[x,y,z]$ and $I = (xz,yz)$. Notice that ht $I = 1$ since $I \subset (z)$. Localize at $z$. Then $R_z = k[x,y,z,z/1]$ and $IR_z = (xz,yz)R_z = (x,y)R_z$. Hence ht $IR_z = 2$. This is a famous example that R/I is not Cohen-Macaulay at $(x,y,z)$ since it is not equidimensional (a line passes though a plane).

This is a comment to navigetor23's question.

To me, it seems like you are asking two different questions.
(1) How does height of an ideal in a ring related to height of it image in a factor ring?
(2) How does height behave under localizations?

For 1): I don't think it behaves well in general. If a ring is caterary and equidimensional than it behaves better. For example, Lemma 2, p. 250, Matsumura, Commutative Ring Theory, says

  • If an equidimensional local ring $(A,m)$ is catenary then ht $p_2$ = ht $p_1$ + ht $(p_2/p_1)$ for all $p_1,p_2 \in$ Spec $A$ with $p_1 \subset p_2$.

For 2): Consider, $R = k[x,y,z]$ and $I = (xz,yz)$. Notice that ht $I = 1$ since $I \subset (z)$. Localize at $z$. Then $R_z = k[x,y,z,z/1]$ and $IR_z = (xz,yz)R_z = (x,y)R_z$. Hence ht $IR_z = 2$. This is a famous example that R/I is not Cohen-Macaulay at $(x,y,z)$ since it is not equidimensional (a line passes though a plane).

--------------------------------------------------------------- added June 3rd 2012

This is to answer the question below Height of ideal in graded ring .

Hi. Assume ht $I \neq $ ht $I'$. We can find a homogeneous prime $q$ of the same height as $I'$. By going modulo $q$ we may assume the following

  • $R$ is graded,
  • $I$ is not zero, $I' = 0$,
  • $q = 0$.

Now we goto the localization $R_{(0)}$ as introduced by Thomas above. Since $I$ is not zero this ring is isomorphic to $k[t,t^{-1}]$ which is a PID. Hence $IR_{(0)}$ is of height $1$ and contained in a maximal ideal Q of height $1$. Here you can see $Q' = 0$. This shows that the preimage of $Q$ in $R$ contains $I$ and its $'$ is q. Now use 1.5.8b in Brunz-Herzog's book.

In other words, there exists a prime ideal $Q$ in $R$ such that $q = Q^'$ and $I \subset Q$. Hence ht $I -1 \le$ ht $Q -1 = $ ht $q = $ ht $I'$ where the equality ht $Q - 1 = $ ht $q$ is from 1.5.8b.

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