Timeline for joint papers/collaboration, take two. [closed]
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| Jul 29, 2021 at 20:00 | history | made wiki | Post Made Community Wiki by Stefan Kohl♦ | ||
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| Sep 16, 2011 at 21:33 | comment | added | Ben Webster♦ | This probably will never make it to the top of the comments, but I want to point that the correct procedure for "trying again" on a question is to edit it and then have a discussion on meta/ask the moderators to reopen it. The ability to reopen questions is there for a reason. | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 15:50 | comment | added | Gerhard Paseman | Here is (I think) a good question, although perhaps not for MathOverflow: if a grad student with some accepted research is looking for recommendations for a position (postdoc, teaching, research grant), how smart/stupid is it to ask ones collaborators for such letters? I can see where they could go a way towards determining suitability of a candidate for research, but I can also see it working against future collaborations and there may be other downsides. Gerhard "Ask Me About Suitable Questions" Paseman, 2011.09.16 | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 15:32 | comment | added | user9072 | I contributed the last vote to close. This question is too vague. On top of is genuine vagueness, this will depend much on culture and field, neither is specified. | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 15:29 | history | closed |
Felipe Voloch Wadim Zudilin Andrew Stacey Andrés E. Caicedo user9072 |
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| Sep 16, 2011 at 15:17 | comment | added | Colin Reid | On top of the usual 'who did what?' question on coauthored papers, I think there's a question with everything you do as a grad student as to how much independence you had from the supervisor, regardless of whether the supervisor is given as a coauthor, unless it is wildly divergent from the supervisor's field. It's something that future employers have to effectively take the supervisor's word for. | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 14:36 | answer | added | Hailong Dao | timeline score: 14 | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 13:56 | comment | added | Per Alexandersson | Two collaboration papers are better than no independent paper. 1+1=3 | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 13:33 | comment | added | Deane Yang | JSE is not anonymous at all. Just click on "JSE". | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 13:14 | comment | added | Wadim Zudilin | SL & JSE, I love your anonymity! I apologize for insulting you, dear SL. I am just sad to see that maths is more about business. | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 13:04 | answer | added | JSE | timeline score: 11 | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 12:58 | comment | added | JSE | I object strongly to Wadim's comment and see nothing in the question that makes me doubt SL's future in math. Mathematics may not be about writing papers and getting credit, but if you want to eventually get paid to do research, it is completely reasonable to make sure that you are not inadvertently denying yourself credit for the work you did because of disciplinary mores you don't know about. | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 12:53 | comment | added | user14449 | Wadim Zudilin - there is no need for insults. I enjoy math research as much as anyone else, and I have a lot of fun, and I have no doubt that I will end up becoming a full fledged mathematician. I only asked this question to "better my career", if you will, and I fail to see the relevance of your comment. | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 12:47 | comment | added | user14449 | Thanks, that clears up a lot of things. I guess, perhaps in my own arrogance, when I see a papers with several collaborators each, I can't help but wonder whether they've really all contributed equally. I wasn't talking about my supervisor - I feel that is a completely different situation, since the supervisor is, in some way, obligated to offer some help. | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 12:45 | answer | added | Joel David Hamkins | timeline score: 18 | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 12:40 | comment | added | Neil Strickland | If you just have one paper published jointly with your supervisor then that will raise questions, and people will look to your letters of recommendation for information about your level of independence. If your coauthor is not your supervisor, and especially if they are also junior, then I think this is less likely to be an issue. | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 12:31 | comment | added | Stefan Waldmann | There is a related question here mathoverflow.net/questions/57337/… | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 12:25 | comment | added | Felipe Voloch | That's one reason why letters of recommendation are useful and people pay attention to them. Make sure to establish contact with one or two people besides your advisor who will be able to write knowledgeably about you. I'm not sure this question is appropriate for MO and, if it is, it should be made community wiki. | |
| Sep 16, 2011 at 11:58 | history | asked | user14449 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |