Timeline for Maiden Names vs. Married Names
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| Oct 15, 2011 at 20:25 | comment | added | Zsbán Ambrus | Wait, does the T. in the name of T. Sós Vera really stand for his husband's name? | |
| Sep 1, 2011 at 22:59 | history | edited | Timothy Chow |
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| S Sep 1, 2011 at 12:38 | vote | accept | J.L. Nelson | ||
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| Sep 1, 2011 at 10:37 | history | edited | Mohammed Abouzaid | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 1, 2011 at 10:32 | history | edited | Gil Kalai | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 1, 2011 at 10:00 | answer | added | R W | timeline score: -6 | |
| Sep 1, 2011 at 8:40 | answer | added | Igor Pak | timeline score: 12 | |
| Sep 1, 2011 at 0:02 | comment | added | Michael Hardy | Lisl Novak published under that name and then as Lisl Gaal after she got married. And then as Lisl Gaal after her divorce. | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 20:48 | comment | added | Tom Leinster | Franz, it's about the practicalities of a mathematics research career. Anyway, the place for this is meta: tea.mathoverflow.net/discussion/1127/using-maiden-name | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 18:05 | history | reopened |
user9072 Tom Leinster Emil Jeřábek Neil Strickland Andy Putman |
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| Aug 31, 2011 at 17:39 | comment | added | Franz Lemmermeyer | What's the world coming to? How is this related to mathematical research? I see a strong trend towards the sci.mathification of MO. | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 17:21 | history | made wiki | Post Made Community Wiki by François G. Dorais | ||
| Aug 31, 2011 at 17:01 | history | closed |
user6976 Andrew Stacey Andrés E. Caicedo Bruce Westbury JSE |
not a real question | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 16:43 | comment | added | Tom Leinster | I also vote not to close. | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 16:38 | answer | added | Gerhard Paseman | timeline score: 6 | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 16:26 | comment | added | Neil Strickland | I'd like to record a vote not to close. | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 16:17 | comment | added | user9072 | Gil, I upvoted your first comment, to try to give it more visibilty. To all, regardless of opinion on the question, I suggest to upvote the first of Gil's comments for practical reasons. | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 16:08 | comment | added | Gil Kalai | The fourth vote to close did not take into account my vote not to close. This goes against MO conventions and ettique. | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 15:49 | comment | added | Gil Kalai | The problem has already been closed and opened and it would be useful to give people who may wish to answer the opportunity to do so. I vote not to close. | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 14:51 | answer | added | Noah Snyder | timeline score: 22 | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 12:45 | comment | added | user6976 | This is not about math. Voted to close. | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 7:10 | history | reopened |
David E Speyer Emerton Kevin H. Lin Mariano Suárez-Álvarez Daniel Litt |
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| Aug 31, 2011 at 2:33 | comment | added | Yemon Choi | If the original poster is reading, I'd encourage her to consider joining the discussion on MetaMathOverflow (as linked to by Gil Kalai) since the discussion there is a bit speculative without input from the OP. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 23:48 | comment | added | Gil Kalai | Meta discussion: tea.mathoverflow.net/discussion/1127/using-maiden-name | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 23:11 | comment | added | Henry Cohn | The only professional issue I see here is how to make sure you still get credit for past papers if you change the name you publish under. Besides the generic advice (include a brief note about the name change when listing your publications on a CV or home page), I can think of one math-specific issue: make sure MathSciNet links the two names. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 22:25 | comment | added | alex | Anyway, I'll just note that in the past MO has allowed question about whether conventions exist in the mathematics community for this or that, what their advantages and disadvantages are, etc. For example: mathoverflow.net/questions/34540/… , mathoverflow.net/questions/42225/what-counts-as-an-invited-talk , mathoverflow.net/questions/73526/how-to-use-arxiv and so on. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 22:13 | comment | added | alex | @Ben Webster - given that the question begins with the words "Is there a set convention..." I really, really (really) do not see how anyone can argue the question is based on the premise that there is a convention. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 21:24 | comment | added | Ben Webster♦ | I find it a little odd that no one pointed out that this question is based on a false premise: that there is a convention about what to do in such situations. The name that someone puts on a paper is whatever they tell the publisher their name is. I publish all my papers under "Ben Webster" and no publisher calls to ask if it actually says "Benjamin" on my drivers license (it does). | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 21:14 | comment | added | user9072 | If this question and discussion stays active, I would suggest it is changed to a gender-neutral one. I do not think that the differences between such a situation for a male and a female mathematician are sufficiently different to requier carrying out such a discussion in a gender-specific way. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 20:50 | comment | added | Gil Kalai | I do not see why this question is different from the question regarding 2-body job search. mathoverflow.net/questions/5424/… . (MO is not so friendly to women so maybe it is better that this problem is closed.)It is a complicated question. Of course, the problem does not arise if the women does not change her last name. If she does,I know several cases that women used their maiden names, some cases that they used both names and some cases that they used the name after marriage. The issue becomes sometimes delicate in cases of divorce. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 20:35 | comment | added | Will Jagy | Stefan, Helen and i went to graduate school together, she made a point of saying that she wanted to take her husband's last name. As it happens, she got married within a very short time of finishing her Ph. D., so i am not sure Helen has any publications under her maiden name. Flahive, in the book I mention, lists three publications in the bibliography as: Gbur (now Flahive) from 1976 and 1977, and on her department web page lists publications under Flahive. I just wanted to emphasize that both a modernist approach and a traditionalist approach can work out. In other words, Don't Panic. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 20:31 | history | closed |
user9072 Franz Lemmermeyer José Figueroa-O'Farrill Andreas Thom Timothy Chow |
off topic | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 20:16 | comment | added | Stefan Geschke | Are you sure that the women you mention are not publishing under their actual names? Women known under their maiden names certainly have a great incentive not to change their name when they get married. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 20:10 | comment | added | Will Jagy | To continue, the arXiv has a mechanism whereby a writer essentially claims to be the same person as the author of some previous arXiv paper. Helen is at Bryn Mawr. Mary Flahive of Oregon State also published as Mary Gbur, see her book with Thomas Cusick, "The Markoff and Lagrange Spectra" | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 19:55 | comment | added | Will Jagy | You are correct about the women you name. But Helen Giessler, when married, took her husband's last name (Grundman) and uses that for everything. So I do not think there is any set convention, and little risk that a mathematician will be incorrectly identified owing to this choice. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 19:43 | comment | added | user9072 | I vote to close this question, as I think it has nothing to do with mathematics. While you ask about mathematicians, I strongly believe that in this regard there is nothing specific to mathematics relative to other scientific disciplines (or perhaps even other professional activities). | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 19:36 | history | asked | J.L. Nelson | CC BY-SA 3.0 |