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This is not exactly the question, but it is related. To begin with, it is difficult to "explicitly" describe $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ except as a subfield of $\mathbb{C}$. I found a paper, Algebraic consequences of the axiom of determinacyAlgebraic consequences of the axiom of determinacy (in English translation of the title) that establishes that $\mathbb{C}$ does not have any automorphisms other than complex conjugation in ZF plus the axiom of determinacy (AD). So you need some part of the axiom of choice (AC) for this related question.

I got email about this from Kevin Buzzard that made me look again at the paper referenced by Wikipedia, A weak countable choice principleA weak countable choice principle by Bridges, Richman, and Schuster (DOI: 10.1090/S0002-9939-00-05327-2). According to this paper, life is pretty strange without countable choice. You want to make the real numbers as the metric completion of the rationals. However, there is a difference between general Cauchy sequences and what they called "modulated" sequences, which are sequences of rationals with a promised rate of convergence. They cite a result of Ruitenberg that the modulated complex numbers are algebraically closed in ZF. Hence $\mathbb{Q}$ has an algebraic closure in ZF.

This is not exactly the question, but it is related. To begin with, it is difficult to "explicitly" describe $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ except as a subfield of $\mathbb{C}$. I found a paper, Algebraic consequences of the axiom of determinacy (in English translation of the title) that establishes that $\mathbb{C}$ does not have any automorphisms other than complex conjugation in ZF plus the axiom of determinacy (AD). So you need some part of the axiom of choice (AC) for this related question.

I got email about this from Kevin Buzzard that made me look again at the paper referenced by Wikipedia, A weak countable choice principle by Bridges, Richman, and Schuster. According to this paper, life is pretty strange without countable choice. You want to make the real numbers as the metric completion of the rationals. However, there is a difference between general Cauchy sequences and what they called "modulated" sequences, which are sequences of rationals with a promised rate of convergence. They cite a result of Ruitenberg that the modulated complex numbers are algebraically closed in ZF. Hence $\mathbb{Q}$ has an algebraic closure in ZF.

This is not exactly the question, but it is related. To begin with, it is difficult to "explicitly" describe $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ except as a subfield of $\mathbb{C}$. I found a paper, Algebraic consequences of the axiom of determinacy (in English translation of the title) that establishes that $\mathbb{C}$ does not have any automorphisms other than complex conjugation in ZF plus the axiom of determinacy (AD). So you need some part of the axiom of choice (AC) for this related question.

I got email about this from Kevin Buzzard that made me look again at the paper referenced by Wikipedia, A weak countable choice principle by Bridges, Richman, and Schuster (DOI: 10.1090/S0002-9939-00-05327-2). According to this paper, life is pretty strange without countable choice. You want to make the real numbers as the metric completion of the rationals. However, there is a difference between general Cauchy sequences and what they called "modulated" sequences, which are sequences of rationals with a promised rate of convergence. They cite a result of Ruitenberg that the modulated complex numbers are algebraically closed in ZF. Hence $\mathbb{Q}$ has an algebraic closure in ZF.

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See the last part of this extended answer. I'm going to part company with everyone else and say that you can describe other elements of $\text{Gal}(\mathbb{Q})$. In other words, I claim that you can identity a specific element of $\text{Gal}(\mathbb{Q})$ in a wide range of ways, together with an algorithm to compute the values of that element as a function on $\mathbb{Q}$. You can use either a synthetic model of $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$, or its model as a subfield of $\mathbb{C}$. Although this is all doable, what's not so clear is whether these explicit elements are interesting.

For comparison, let $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$ be the algebraic closure of $\mathbb{Q}$ in $\mathbb{C}$. Each element of it is computable: Its digits can be generated by an algorithm, even with an explicit bound on its running time. As we build $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$, we can also build an isomorphism between it and $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$. We can do this by sending the formal root of $p_n(x)$ to its first root in $\mathbb{C}$, using some convenient ordering on $\mathbb{C}$. Or we could just as well have used its last root, its second root if it has one, etc. Composing these many different isomorphisms between $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ and $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$ gives you many field automorphisms.

See the last of this extended answer. I'm going to part company with everyone else and say that you can describe other elements of $\text{Gal}(\mathbb{Q})$. In other words, I claim that you can identity a specific element of $\text{Gal}(\mathbb{Q})$ in a wide range of ways, together with an algorithm to compute the values of that element as a function on $\mathbb{Q}$. You can use either a synthetic model of $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$, or its model as a subfield of $\mathbb{C}$. Although this is all doable, what's not so clear is whether these explicit elements are interesting.

For comparison, let $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$ be the algebraic closure of $\mathbb{Q}$ in $\mathbb{C}$. Each element of it is computable: Its digits can be generated by an algorithm, even with an explicit bound on its running time. As we build $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$, we can also build an isomorphism between $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$. We can do this by sending the formal root of $p_n(x)$ to its first root in $\mathbb{C}$, using some convenient ordering on $\mathbb{C}$. Or we could just as well have used its last root, its second root if it has one, etc. Composing these many different isomorphisms between $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ and $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$ gives you many field automorphisms.

See the last part of this extended answer. I'm going to part company with everyone else and say that you can describe other elements of $\text{Gal}(\mathbb{Q})$. In other words, I claim that you can identity a specific element of $\text{Gal}(\mathbb{Q})$ in a wide range of ways, together with an algorithm to compute the values of that element as a function on $\mathbb{Q}$. You can use either a synthetic model of $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$, or its model as a subfield of $\mathbb{C}$. Although this is all doable, what's not so clear is whether these explicit elements are interesting.

For comparison, let $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$ be the algebraic closure of $\mathbb{Q}$ in $\mathbb{C}$. Each element of it is computable: Its digits can be generated by an algorithm, even with an explicit bound on its running time. As we build $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$, we can also build an isomorphism between it and $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$. We can do this by sending the formal root of $p_n(x)$ to its first root in $\mathbb{C}$, using some convenient ordering on $\mathbb{C}$. Or we could just as well have used its last root, its second root if it has one, etc. Composing these many different isomorphisms between $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ and $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$ gives you many field automorphisms.

Final emendation, with opposite answer
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See the last of this extended answer. I'm going to part company with everyone else and say that you can describe other elements of $\text{Gal}(\mathbb{Q})$. In other words, I claim that you can identity a specific element of $\text{Gal}(\mathbb{Q})$ in a wide range of ways, together with an algorithm to compute the values of that element as a function on $\mathbb{Q}$. You can use either a synthetic model of $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$, or its model as a subfield of $\mathbb{C}$. Although this is all doable, what's not so clear is whether these explicit elements are interesting.

The other two parts of the answer raise interesting issues, but they are moot for the original question.


This is not exactly the question, but it is related. To begin with, it is difficult to "explicitly" describe $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ except as a subfield of $\mathbb{C}$. I found a paper, Algebraic consequences of the axiom of determinacy (in English translation of the title) that establishes that $\mathbb{C}$ does not have any automorphisms other than complex conjugation in ZF plus the axiom of determinacy (AD). So you need some part of the axiom of choice (AC) for this related question.

But it still seems possible that without countable choice, algebraic closures of $\mathbb{Q}$ need not be unique up to isomorphism, and that the complex analysis model of $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ might not have automorphisms other than complex conjugation.


A better and hopefully final technical answer: As mentioned, $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ exists explicitly (in just ZF) as a subfield of $\mathbb{C}$. You can also construct it synthetically as follows: Consider the monic Galois polynomials over $\mathbb{Z}$. These are the polynomials such that the Galois group acts freely transitively on the roots; equivalently the splitting field is obtained by adjoining just one root. The Galois polynomials can be written in a finite notation and enumerated. Beginning with $\mathbb{Q}$, formally adjoin a root of $p_n(x)$, the $n$th monic Galois polynomial, for each $n$ in turn. If $p_n(x)$ factors over the field constructed so far, the factors can also be expressed in a finite notation; take the first irreducible factor. The result is an explicit, synthetically constructed $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$.

For comparison, let $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$ be the algebraic closure of $\mathbb{Q}$ in $\mathbb{C}$. Each element of it is computable: Its digits can be generated by an algorithm, even with an explicit bound on its running time. As we build $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$, we can also build an isomorphism between $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$. We can do this by sending the formal root of $p_n(x)$ to its first root in $\mathbb{C}$, using some convenient ordering on $\mathbb{C}$. Or we could just as well have used its last root, its second root if it has one, etc. Composing these many different isomorphisms between $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ and $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$ gives you many field automorphisms.

This is not exactly the question, but it is related. To begin with, it is difficult to "explicitly" describe $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ except as a subfield of $\mathbb{C}$. I found a paper, Algebraic consequences of the axiom of determinacy (in English translation of the title) that establishes that $\mathbb{C}$ does not have any automorphisms other than complex conjugation in ZF plus the axiom of determinacy (AD). So you need some part of the axiom of choice (AC) for this related question.

But it still seems possible that without countable choice, algebraic closures of $\mathbb{Q}$ need not be unique up to isomorphism, and that the complex analysis model of $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ might not have automorphisms other than complex conjugation.

See the last of this extended answer. I'm going to part company with everyone else and say that you can describe other elements of $\text{Gal}(\mathbb{Q})$. In other words, I claim that you can identity a specific element of $\text{Gal}(\mathbb{Q})$ in a wide range of ways, together with an algorithm to compute the values of that element as a function on $\mathbb{Q}$. You can use either a synthetic model of $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$, or its model as a subfield of $\mathbb{C}$. Although this is all doable, what's not so clear is whether these explicit elements are interesting.

The other two parts of the answer raise interesting issues, but they are moot for the original question.


This is not exactly the question, but it is related. To begin with, it is difficult to "explicitly" describe $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ except as a subfield of $\mathbb{C}$. I found a paper, Algebraic consequences of the axiom of determinacy (in English translation of the title) that establishes that $\mathbb{C}$ does not have any automorphisms other than complex conjugation in ZF plus the axiom of determinacy (AD). So you need some part of the axiom of choice (AC) for this related question.

But it still seems possible that without countable choice, algebraic closures of $\mathbb{Q}$ need not be unique up to isomorphism, and that the complex analysis model of $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ might not have automorphisms other than complex conjugation.


A better and hopefully final technical answer: As mentioned, $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ exists explicitly (in just ZF) as a subfield of $\mathbb{C}$. You can also construct it synthetically as follows: Consider the monic Galois polynomials over $\mathbb{Z}$. These are the polynomials such that the Galois group acts freely transitively on the roots; equivalently the splitting field is obtained by adjoining just one root. The Galois polynomials can be written in a finite notation and enumerated. Beginning with $\mathbb{Q}$, formally adjoin a root of $p_n(x)$, the $n$th monic Galois polynomial, for each $n$ in turn. If $p_n(x)$ factors over the field constructed so far, the factors can also be expressed in a finite notation; take the first irreducible factor. The result is an explicit, synthetically constructed $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$.

For comparison, let $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$ be the algebraic closure of $\mathbb{Q}$ in $\mathbb{C}$. Each element of it is computable: Its digits can be generated by an algorithm, even with an explicit bound on its running time. As we build $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$, we can also build an isomorphism between $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$. We can do this by sending the formal root of $p_n(x)$ to its first root in $\mathbb{C}$, using some convenient ordering on $\mathbb{C}$. Or we could just as well have used its last root, its second root if it has one, etc. Composing these many different isomorphisms between $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ and $\widetilde{\mathbb{Q}}$ gives you many field automorphisms.

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