Skip to main content
deleted 7 characters in body
Source Link
Gerald Edgar
  • 41.1k
  • 5
  • 125
  • 219

My response to the answer by fedja, Jun 5, 2011. This should be a comment, but won't fit.

It didn't work. Taking values of $A,B,\epsilon$ that satisfy your conditions, then tracing back through using 20-digit arithmetic, I get these values: $s_1=0.34018988053902955186$, $s_2=0.98903555253485545775$, $p_1=0.0000000004309513037$, $p_2=0.99999999956904869628$, $b = 0.050000002052149145975$. And this does what you wanted: function $(p_1 s_1^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}+ (p_2 s_2^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}$ looks like this:
alt text

It crosses the line $y=1$ three times, as required. But the function $D$ defined as specified implicitly, looks like this:

D vs r

ItD
It does not cross the line $1+br$ three times. The value $r=0$ is no good for this (because in fact every number $D$ satisfies the equation when $r=0$).

My response to the answer by fedja, Jun 5, 2011. This should be a comment, but won't fit.

It didn't work. Taking values of $A,B,\epsilon$ that satisfy your conditions, then tracing back through using 20-digit arithmetic, I get these values: $s_1=0.34018988053902955186$, $s_2=0.98903555253485545775$, $p_1=0.0000000004309513037$, $p_2=0.99999999956904869628$, $b = 0.050000002052149145975$. And this does what you wanted: function $(p_1 s_1^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}+ (p_2 s_2^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}$ looks like this:
alt text

It crosses the line $y=1$ three times, as required. But the function $D$ defined as specified implicitly, looks like this:

D vs r

It does not cross the line three times. The value $r=0$ is no good for this (because in fact every number $D$ satisfies the equation when $r=0$).

My response to the answer by fedja, Jun 5, 2011. This should be a comment, but won't fit.

It didn't work. Taking values of $A,B,\epsilon$ that satisfy your conditions, then tracing back through using 20-digit arithmetic, I get these values: $s_1=0.34018988053902955186$, $s_2=0.98903555253485545775$, $p_1=0.0000000004309513037$, $p_2=0.99999999956904869628$, $b = 0.050000002052149145975$. And this does what you wanted: function $(p_1 s_1^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}+ (p_2 s_2^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}$ looks like this:
alt text

It crosses the line $y=1$ three times, as required. But the function $D$ defined as specified implicitly, looks like this:

D
It does not cross the line $1+br$ three times. The value $r=0$ is no good for this (because in fact every number $D$ satisfies the equation when $r=0$).

added 35 characters in body
Source Link
Gerald Edgar
  • 41.1k
  • 5
  • 125
  • 219

My response to the answer by fedja, Jun 5, 2011. This should be a comment, but won't fit.

It didn't work. Taking values of $A,B,\epsilon$ that satisfy your conditions, then tracing back through using 20-digit arithmetic, I get these values: $s_1=0.34018988053902955186$, $s_2=0.98903555253485545775$, $p_1=0.0000000004309513037$, $p_2=0.99999999956904869628$, $b = 0.050000002052149145975$. And this does what you wanted: function $(p_1 s_1^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}+ (p_2 s_2^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}$ looks like this:
alt text

It crosses the line $y=1$ three times, as required. But the function $D$ defined as specified implicitly, looks like this:

alt text http://i51.tinypic.com/2z86umw.jpg (broken link)D vs r

It does not cross the line three times. The value $r=0$ is no good for this (because in fact every number $D$ satisfies the equation when $r=0$).

My response to the answer by fedja, Jun 5, 2011. This should be a comment, but won't fit.

It didn't work. Taking values of $A,B,\epsilon$ that satisfy your conditions, then tracing back through using 20-digit arithmetic, I get these values: $s_1=0.34018988053902955186$, $s_2=0.98903555253485545775$, $p_1=0.0000000004309513037$, $p_2=0.99999999956904869628$, $b = 0.050000002052149145975$. And this does what you wanted: function $(p_1 s_1^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}+ (p_2 s_2^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}$ looks like this:
alt text

It crosses the line $y=1$ three times, as required. But the function $D$ defined as specified implicitly, looks like this:

alt text http://i51.tinypic.com/2z86umw.jpg (broken link)

It does not cross the line three times. The value $r=0$ is no good for this (because in fact every number $D$ satisfies the equation when $r=0$).

My response to the answer by fedja, Jun 5, 2011. This should be a comment, but won't fit.

It didn't work. Taking values of $A,B,\epsilon$ that satisfy your conditions, then tracing back through using 20-digit arithmetic, I get these values: $s_1=0.34018988053902955186$, $s_2=0.98903555253485545775$, $p_1=0.0000000004309513037$, $p_2=0.99999999956904869628$, $b = 0.050000002052149145975$. And this does what you wanted: function $(p_1 s_1^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}+ (p_2 s_2^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}$ looks like this:
alt text

It crosses the line $y=1$ three times, as required. But the function $D$ defined as specified implicitly, looks like this:

D vs r

It does not cross the line three times. The value $r=0$ is no good for this (because in fact every number $D$ satisfies the equation when $r=0$).

Copied image to imgur.com, as it was not being displayed because of the new https rule. (There is still another broken image; the Wayback Machine does not help.)
Source Link

My response to the answer by fedja, Jun 5, 2011. This should be a comment, but won't fit.

It didn't work. Taking values of $A,B,\epsilon$ that satisfy your conditions, then tracing back through using 20-digit arithmetic, I get these values: $s_1=0.34018988053902955186$, $s_2=0.98903555253485545775$, $p_1=0.0000000004309513037$, $p_2=0.99999999956904869628$, $b = 0.050000002052149145975$. And this does what you wanted: function $(p_1 s_1^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}+ (p_2 s_2^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}$ looks like this:
alt text http://i53.tinypic.com/339lrox.jpgalt text

It crosses the line $y=1$ three times, as required. But the function $D$ defined as specified implicitly, looks like this:
  

alt text http://i51.tinypic.com/2z86umw.jpg (broken link)

It does not cross the line three times. The value $r=0$ is no good for this (because in fact every number $D$ satisfies the equation when $r=0$).

My response to the answer by fedja, Jun 5, 2011. This should be a comment, but won't fit.

It didn't work. Taking values of $A,B,\epsilon$ that satisfy your conditions, then tracing back through using 20-digit arithmetic, I get these values: $s_1=0.34018988053902955186$, $s_2=0.98903555253485545775$, $p_1=0.0000000004309513037$, $p_2=0.99999999956904869628$, $b = 0.050000002052149145975$. And this does what you wanted: function $(p_1 s_1^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}+ (p_2 s_2^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}$ looks like this:
alt text http://i53.tinypic.com/339lrox.jpg

It crosses the line $y=1$ three times, as required. But the function $D$ defined as specified implicitly, looks like this:
 alt text http://i51.tinypic.com/2z86umw.jpg

It does not cross the line three times. The value $r=0$ is no good for this (because in fact every number $D$ satisfies the equation when $r=0$).

My response to the answer by fedja, Jun 5, 2011. This should be a comment, but won't fit.

It didn't work. Taking values of $A,B,\epsilon$ that satisfy your conditions, then tracing back through using 20-digit arithmetic, I get these values: $s_1=0.34018988053902955186$, $s_2=0.98903555253485545775$, $p_1=0.0000000004309513037$, $p_2=0.99999999956904869628$, $b = 0.050000002052149145975$. And this does what you wanted: function $(p_1 s_1^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}+ (p_2 s_2^r)^{(1+b r)/(1+b r+r)}$ looks like this:
alt text

It crosses the line $y=1$ three times, as required. But the function $D$ defined as specified implicitly, looks like this: 

alt text http://i51.tinypic.com/2z86umw.jpg (broken link)

It does not cross the line three times. The value $r=0$ is no good for this (because in fact every number $D$ satisfies the equation when $r=0$).

added 29 characters in body
Source Link
Gerald Edgar
  • 41.1k
  • 5
  • 125
  • 219
Loading
Source Link
Gerald Edgar
  • 41.1k
  • 5
  • 125
  • 219
Loading