Timeline for Kro-necker versus Kron-ecker: which hyphenation is preferred?
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May 24, 2011 at 18:21 | comment | added | user9072 | Theo Buehler, yes but I'd say Kronecker is a proper name, and not a composition like 'Haustor' (which thus is hyphenated, and also at least more-or-less pronuced, Haus-tor; and not Hau-stor or Haust-or). Whether the ethymology of the name is the one Stefan Geschke suggest is I think something that would need to be confirmed; after all 'Necker' exists also in Germany. And even if the ethymology would be the one suggested I'd say it is somehow 'lost', because there is no reason not to say Kron-ek-er, which would suggest it, yet which for all I know is not done. | |
May 24, 2011 at 18:08 | comment | added | Theo Buehler | @Konrad: Well, I'm not going to indulge in a further discussion, but if I understand correctly, rule 164 applies to simple words (einfache Wörter). As Stefan argued (and I would) Kronecker should be treated as a composite, no? So rule 167 should be applied, which leads to Stefan's answer. But I'd have no problem to stand corrected. | |
May 24, 2011 at 17:56 | comment | added | Konrad Waldorf | unkown (google) is right, at least when German grammatic rules are assumed. Duden-Regel 164 says hyphenation should follow the pronounciation of the slowly-spoken word, which is "Kro-necker". And even if that's controversial, the rule says that the new line should never begin with a vowel, excluding "Kron-ecker". | |
May 24, 2011 at 17:45 | comment | added | Theo Buehler | Since when does German orthography have anything to do with pronunciation? There must have been yet another reform I missed. Duden is quite clear on this: "Zusammensetzungen und Wörter mit Präfix trennt man zwischen den einzelnen Bestandteilen.", Duden, Die amtliche Regelung der deutschen Rechtschreibung, §111. To be honest, I'm completely lost since the reform, but this seems a rather clear case. | |
May 24, 2011 at 17:34 | comment | added | John Sidles | Hmmm ... and perhaps I should mention too, that a Google Books search (limited to 1960-present) comparing usages of "Kro-necker" to usages of "Kron-ecker", turns up numerous examples of both, with "Kro-necker" preferred roughly 4-to-1. And yet, perhaps this reflects the dominance of Donald Knuth's hyphenation algorithm rather than lexicographic correctness? | |
May 24, 2011 at 17:25 | history | answered | user9072 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |