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For $d=3$ the homotopy groups can be pretty elaborate. Consider the connect-sum of some lens spaces. The universal cover embeds in $S^3$ as the complement of a cantor set (except for a few degenerate cases where you have $\mathbb RP^3$ summands). So the homotopy-groups are pretty complicated ($\pi_2$ is finitely generated over $\pi_1$). You could probably make an argument that this is about the worst thing that can happen for the homotopy-groups of 3-manifolds.

You might want to phrase your question as a question about the Postnikov towers of manifolds. Eilenberg-Maclane spaces are rarely compact boundaryless manifolds.

edit: I guess another spin on your question could go like this. We know the fundamental groups of compact manifolds are all possible finitely presentable groups provided $n \geq 4$. So is there a sense in which the homotopy-algebras of manifolds can be anything finitely presentable? Say, for example, $\pi_2$. As a module over the group-ring of $\pi_1$, are there any restrictions beyond being finitely generated? I suppose you could construct a compact $6$-manifold with $\pi_2$ (almost) any finitely-presented thing over any finitely-presented $\pi_1$ pretty much the exact same way $4$-manifolds with any finitely presented $\pi_1$ are constructed. I think if $H_2(\pi_1)$ is non-trivial you might run into problems following the analogous construction, in that $\pi_2$ might strictly contain the $\pi_2$ you're trying to create.

2nd edit: So regarding 3-manifolds I think your question has something of an answer now, right? $\pi_n M$ is $\pi_n$ of the universal cover provided $n > 1$. The universal cover of a geometric 3-manfold is homeomorphic to $\mathbb R^3$ or $S^3$. So by climbing up the JSJ and connect sum decomposition of a 3-manifold, the universal cover is diffeomorphic to a punctured $S^3$ -- the number of punctures is either $0$, $1$, $2$ or a Cantor set's worth of punctures. In the Cantor set case we're giving this complement the compactly generated topology induced from the Cantor set complement's subspace topology. So among other things, $\pi_2 M$ is a direct sum of copies of $\mathbb Z$, similarly $\pi_3 M$, torsion first appears in $\pi_4 M$. The complement you think of as a directed system of wedges of $S^2$'s so the Hilton-Milnor theorem tells you the homotopy groups.

For $d=3$ the homotopy groups can be pretty elaborate. Consider the connect-sum of some lens spaces. The universal cover embeds in $S^3$ as the complement of a cantor set (except for a few degenerate cases where you have $\mathbb RP^3$ summands). So the homotopy-groups are pretty complicated ($\pi_2$ is finitely generated over $\pi_1$). You could probably make an argument that this is about the worst thing that can happen for the homotopy-groups of 3-manifolds.

You might want to phrase your question as a question about the Postnikov towers of manifolds. Eilenberg-Maclane spaces are rarely compact boundaryless manifolds.

edit: I guess another spin on your question could go like this. We know the fundamental groups of compact manifolds are all possible finitely presentable groups provided $n \geq 4$. So is there a sense in which the homotopy-algebras of manifolds can be anything finitely presentable? Say, for example, $\pi_2$. As a module over the group-ring of $\pi_1$, are there any restrictions beyond being finitely generated? I suppose you could construct a compact $6$-manifold with $\pi_2$ (almost) any finitely-presented thing over any finitely-presented $\pi_1$ pretty much the exact same way $4$-manifolds with any finitely presented $\pi_1$ are constructed. I think if $H_2(\pi_1)$ is non-trivial you might run into problems following the analogous construction, in that $\pi_2$ might strictly contain the $\pi_2$ you're trying to create.

For $d=3$ the homotopy groups can be pretty elaborate. Consider the connect-sum of some lens spaces. The universal cover embeds in $S^3$ as the complement of a cantor set (except for a few degenerate cases where you have $\mathbb RP^3$ summands). So the homotopy-groups are pretty complicated ($\pi_2$ is finitely generated over $\pi_1$). You could probably make an argument that this is about the worst thing that can happen for the homotopy-groups of 3-manifolds.

You might want to phrase your question as a question about the Postnikov towers of manifolds. Eilenberg-Maclane spaces are rarely compact boundaryless manifolds.

edit: I guess another spin on your question could go like this. We know the fundamental groups of compact manifolds are all possible finitely presentable groups provided $n \geq 4$. So is there a sense in which the homotopy-algebras of manifolds can be anything finitely presentable? Say, for example, $\pi_2$. As a module over the group-ring of $\pi_1$, are there any restrictions beyond being finitely generated? I suppose you could construct a compact $6$-manifold with $\pi_2$ (almost) any finitely-presented thing over any finitely-presented $\pi_1$ pretty much the exact same way $4$-manifolds with any finitely presented $\pi_1$ are constructed. I think if $H_2(\pi_1)$ is non-trivial you might run into problems following the analogous construction, in that $\pi_2$ might strictly contain the $\pi_2$ you're trying to create.

2nd edit: So regarding 3-manifolds I think your question has something of an answer now, right? $\pi_n M$ is $\pi_n$ of the universal cover provided $n > 1$. The universal cover of a geometric 3-manfold is homeomorphic to $\mathbb R^3$ or $S^3$. So by climbing up the JSJ and connect sum decomposition of a 3-manifold, the universal cover is diffeomorphic to a punctured $S^3$ -- the number of punctures is either $0$, $1$, $2$ or a Cantor set's worth of punctures. In the Cantor set case we're giving this complement the compactly generated topology induced from the Cantor set complement's subspace topology. So among other things, $\pi_2 M$ is a direct sum of copies of $\mathbb Z$, similarly $\pi_3 M$, torsion first appears in $\pi_4 M$. The complement you think of as a directed system of wedges of $S^2$'s so the Hilton-Milnor theorem tells you the homotopy groups.

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For $d=3$ the homotopy groups can be pretty elaborate. Consider the connect-sum of some lens spaces. The universal cover embeds in $S^3$ as the complement of a cantor set (except for a few degenerate cases where you have $\mathbb RP^3$ summands). So the homotopy-groups are pretty complicated ($\pi_2$ is finitely generated over $\pi_1$). You could probably make an argument that this is about the worst thing that can happen for the homotopy-groups of 3-manifolds.

You might want to phrase your question as a question about the Postnikov towers of manifolds. Eilenberg-Maclane spaces are rarely compact boundaryless manifolds.

edit: I guess another spin on your question could go like this. We know the fundamental groups of compact manifolds are all possible finitely presentable groups provided $n \geq 4$. So is there a sense in which the homotopy-algebras of manifolds can be anything finitely presentable? Say, for example, $\pi_2$. As a module over the group-ring of $\pi_1$, are there any restrictions beyond being finitely generated? I suppose you could construct a compact $6$-manifold with $\pi_2$ (almost) any finitely-presented thing over any finitely-presented $\pi_1$ pretty much the exact same way $4$-manifolds with any finitely presented $\pi_1$ are constructed. I think if $H_2(\pi_1)$ is non-trivial you might run into problems following the analogous construction, in that $\pi_2$ might strictly contain the $\pi_2$ you're trying to create.

For $d=3$ the homotopy groups can be pretty elaborate. Consider the connect-sum of some lens spaces. The universal cover embeds in $S^3$ as the complement of a cantor set (except for a few degenerate cases where you have $\mathbb RP^3$ summands). So the homotopy-groups are pretty complicated ($\pi_2$ is finitely generated over $\pi_1$). You could probably make an argument that this is about the worst thing that can happen for the homotopy-groups of 3-manifolds.

You might want to phrase your question as a question about the Postnikov towers of manifolds. Eilenberg-Maclane spaces are rarely compact boundaryless manifolds.

For $d=3$ the homotopy groups can be pretty elaborate. Consider the connect-sum of some lens spaces. The universal cover embeds in $S^3$ as the complement of a cantor set (except for a few degenerate cases where you have $\mathbb RP^3$ summands). So the homotopy-groups are pretty complicated ($\pi_2$ is finitely generated over $\pi_1$). You could probably make an argument that this is about the worst thing that can happen for the homotopy-groups of 3-manifolds.

You might want to phrase your question as a question about the Postnikov towers of manifolds. Eilenberg-Maclane spaces are rarely compact boundaryless manifolds.

edit: I guess another spin on your question could go like this. We know the fundamental groups of compact manifolds are all possible finitely presentable groups provided $n \geq 4$. So is there a sense in which the homotopy-algebras of manifolds can be anything finitely presentable? Say, for example, $\pi_2$. As a module over the group-ring of $\pi_1$, are there any restrictions beyond being finitely generated? I suppose you could construct a compact $6$-manifold with $\pi_2$ (almost) any finitely-presented thing over any finitely-presented $\pi_1$ pretty much the exact same way $4$-manifolds with any finitely presented $\pi_1$ are constructed. I think if $H_2(\pi_1)$ is non-trivial you might run into problems following the analogous construction, in that $\pi_2$ might strictly contain the $\pi_2$ you're trying to create.

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For d=3$d=3$ the homotopy groups can be pretty elaborate. Consider the connect-sum of some lens spaces. The universal cover embeds in S^3$S^3$ as the complement of a cantor set (except for a few degenerate cases where you have RP^3$\mathbb RP^3$ summands). So the homotopy-groups are pretty complicated (\pi_2$\pi_2$ is finitely generated over \pi_1$\pi_1$). You could probably make an argument that this is about the worst thing that can happen for the homotopy-groups of 3-manifolds.

You might want to phrase your question as a question about the Postnikov towers of manifolds. Eilenberg-Maclane spaces are rarely compact boundaryless manifolds.

For d=3 the homotopy groups can be pretty elaborate. Consider the connect-sum of some lens spaces. The universal cover embeds in S^3 as the complement of a cantor set (except for a few degenerate cases where you have RP^3 summands). So the homotopy-groups are pretty complicated (\pi_2 is finitely generated over \pi_1). You could probably make an argument that this is about the worst thing that can happen for the homotopy-groups of 3-manifolds.

You might want to phrase your question as a question about the Postnikov towers of manifolds. Eilenberg-Maclane spaces are rarely compact boundaryless manifolds.

For $d=3$ the homotopy groups can be pretty elaborate. Consider the connect-sum of some lens spaces. The universal cover embeds in $S^3$ as the complement of a cantor set (except for a few degenerate cases where you have $\mathbb RP^3$ summands). So the homotopy-groups are pretty complicated ($\pi_2$ is finitely generated over $\pi_1$). You could probably make an argument that this is about the worst thing that can happen for the homotopy-groups of 3-manifolds.

You might want to phrase your question as a question about the Postnikov towers of manifolds. Eilenberg-Maclane spaces are rarely compact boundaryless manifolds.

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