Timeline for What are an adviser's responsibilities? [closed]
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| Jan 7, 2012 at 22:25 | history | edited | Andrés E. Caicedo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 2, 2011 at 7:19 | comment | added | David Roberts♦ | I can see there is a very fine distinction, but the point is moot, and immaterial to my decision to vote to close. If you want to convince people that this question is worth reopening, please discuss on meta. | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 6:52 | comment | added | anonymous | @David, you really do not see a difference between the question “what is the role of an advisor in the area professional development (support, networking, job search, etc)?” and the suggestion “it is the responsibility of the supervisor to look for jobs for their students”? | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 6:23 | comment | added | David Roberts♦ | @anonymous, to quote from the question, "...(support, networking, job search, etc)". I feel this question could be construed as constructing a list of expectations against which a supervisor can be measured. Such a measure will not be fair, given the differences in academic practice and tradition around the world and between institutions. To echo Yemon, there will be answers that do not fit with people's expectations, and this will descend into something MO is not designed for. | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 6:10 | comment | added | Yemon Choi | @Romeo: I fail to see how the answer by Brian Borchers is "somewhat of a joke". It may not be what some people want to hear, but that's another matter | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 5:39 | comment | added | roy smith | I thought this wqs meant as guidance for potential advisors, and as such I thought it useful, but it seems to have been a potential checklist for gripes from students? Advisors I have known have done a lot for students, but some students seem to have thought the advisor was supposed to write the thesis, which is perhaps the only inappropriate role. | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 5:35 | comment | added | Romeo | @Roberts: isn't the answer by Brian you quote somewhat of a joke? This question seems quite commensurate with many others that have garnered interesting answers... | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 5:32 | comment | added | anonymous | @David, “To suggest it is the responsibility of the supervisor to look for jobs” - who suggested that? | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 5:18 | comment | added | David Roberts♦ | @anonymous I suggest opening a thread on tea.mathoverflow.net if you want to make a case for re-opening this question. | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 5:16 | comment | added | David Roberts♦ | I added the final vote to close because I think the responsibilities of an supervisor are precisely what Brian answered: "supervise a student's work on an MS Thesis or PhD Dissertation". How this happens is a very different question, and I wouldn't call that a responsibility of a supervisor. How this happens varies wildly from country to country, and depends on the ability of the student and the approach that the supervisor takes. To suggest it is the responsibility of the supervisor to look for jobs for their students is pushing it a bit far, even if it is something that people do. | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 5:13 | comment | added | Yemon Choi | @anonymous: my answer to that reformulation: "it depends". Instructorship is not a form of customer service, just as an apprenticeship should not be a form of indentured servitude. And you still aren't saying whether this a German system, a Russian system, pure maths, applied maths, statistics... | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 5:12 | history | closed |
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| Feb 2, 2011 at 4:51 | answer | added | Anonymous | timeline score: 7 | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 3:49 | comment | added | anonymous | @Yemon, I don't think a statement of baseline roles and responsibilities is in conflict with a supervisor "treating his or her students well and training them to be good researchers in whatever way is most suited to the particular field". The question could just as well be: what does "treating his or her students well and training them to be good researchers" mean? | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 3:00 | comment | added | Yemon Choi | I would much rather that a supervisor treats his or her students well and trains them to be good researchers in whatever way is most suited to the particular field of study, than to have a checklist of Roles and Responsibilities that they are supposed to tick off. | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 2:58 | comment | added | Yemon Choi | I have several misgivings about this question, although I appreciate that it seems to be being asked in good faith. One in particular: roles and responsibilities and norms, either for students or for supervisors, vary from place to place (I am prejudicially assuming that the questioner is based in North America but I admit freely that this is mere speculation.) | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 2:02 | history | edited | anonymous | CC BY-SA 2.5 |
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| Feb 2, 2011 at 2:00 | comment | added | anonymous | @Willie thank you. I have attempted to soften the question. I know many students struggle at some point with these issues, yet there is very little written guidance on the topic. I am hopeful students may find answers to this question a useful resource in 1) knowing when to stand up for themself, as well as 2) managing unrealistic expectations. | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 1:53 | history | edited | anonymous | CC BY-SA 2.5 |
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| Feb 2, 2011 at 1:33 | answer | added | Brian Borchers | timeline score: 7 | |
| Feb 2, 2011 at 1:28 | comment | added | Willie Wong | Dear anonymous: what do you actually expect to get out of this question? In other words, how would the answer to this question help you as an individual? In the current phrasing of the question it is not clear what the answer to the those questions are, and your question comes off as somewhat argumentative, which probably won't help your question stay open on MO. | |
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