Timeline for What are journal rankings that employers look at? [closed]
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| Mar 24 at 9:41 | history | left closed in review |
Alex M. Daniele Tampieri Alexey Ustinov |
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| Mar 21 at 13:03 | comment | added | Timothy Chow | @DavidWhite I did not downvote nor vote to close, but I agree with Andy Putman that the question as asked has an obvious answer (no, there is no such list) which the OP surely knows already. So it's a rant and not a question. That said, the question could be rewritten to be possibly acceptable; e.g., asking about how hiring committees go about assessing candidates. Though that wasn't the question that was asked, that seems to be the question you tried to answer. | |
| Mar 21 at 10:29 | review | Reopen votes | |||
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| Mar 21 at 7:29 | history | left closed in review |
Alexey Ustinov Daniele Tampieri Alex M. |
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| Mar 20 at 17:16 | review | Reopen votes | |||
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| Mar 20 at 16:54 | history | closed |
Neil Strickland Andy Putman Joseph Van Name Monroe Eskew godelian |
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| Mar 20 at 16:17 | comment | added | Stanley Yao Xiao | Having served on my first hiring committee, I will say it has been an eye opener for me. Due to the nature of the hire, most of the publications on the CV's I have seen are in journals I have never heard of, but nevertheless are reputable and some very strong. With this in mind I can only comment on my narrow perspective as a number theorist/pure mathematician, which may or may not be relevant. | |
| Mar 20 at 15:47 | history | edited | gmvh |
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| Mar 20 at 15:32 | history | edited | David White | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 20 at 14:36 | comment | added | Andy Putman | @DavidWhite: I want to make it clear that I'm not claiming that I like the things the OP is complaining about. I think any well-adjusted person finds our profession's obsession with linearly ordering people distasteful, at the very least. But I still don't think this question is appropriate for MO. | |
| Mar 20 at 14:32 | history | made wiki | Post Made Community Wiki by Stefan Kohl♦ | ||
| Mar 20 at 14:16 | comment | added | David White | I appreciate the responses from Sam, Joseph, and Andy. Normally, when determining if a question is a better fit for MO or Academia, I ask myself if the situation is peculiar in math (like, arXiv). Sometimes it clearly belongs on Academia (like "can I reuse test questions?"). In this case, I have no idea if other fields have journal ranking lists or how they feel about impact factor. It's possible it would get good answers on Academia, but I wanted to write one specific to math, to our journal ranking lists, etc. | |
| Mar 20 at 13:38 | comment | added | Andy Putman | @DavidWhite: Most of the post is more a rant than a question, and the actual question (on whether there exists some kind of official list) has a simple answer: “no”. | |
| Mar 20 at 13:26 | comment | added | Joseph Van Name | This question and its answers are about culture rather than mathematics. A more suitable question would be about algorithms that can automatically rank journals (and other things like MO answers) and whether these algorithms agree with each other (and with our subjective assessment of rankings). Questions about culture and academia should be left for academia.stackexchange.com instead. | |
| Mar 20 at 13:13 | comment | added | Joseph Van Name | @MartinHairer That is good. PageRank is a very simple algorithm gives each page a positive real number for its importance, but it would be better to give each page a vector in some finite dimensional inner product space that represents its importance in each subject area. | |
| Mar 20 at 13:10 | comment | added | Sam Hopkins | @DavidWhite: "relevant to a research mathematician" is really not the standard I use for evaluating if a question is appropriate for MO. | |
| Mar 20 at 12:52 | comment | added | Martin Hairer | @JosephVanName Something like that exists, it's called eigenfactor. | |
| Mar 20 at 12:49 | comment | added | Joseph Van Name | @AndyPutman You can also run a PageRank-like (but more advanced) algorithm using the network of journals, authors, and papers as well. | |
| Mar 20 at 12:49 | comment | added | David White | This question has three votes to close. Could someone who has voted to close please leave a comment explaining why? It seems to me that "getting hired" and "getting tenure" is part of being a research mathematician, and we are also sometimes called upon to assess the research of others. It seems to me that this question is on-topic, even if you think the use of journal rankings is icky. Kinda like a question that ask what to do if a referee objects to your paper citing preprints on arxiv. You might not like the premise but the question is still important. | |
| Mar 20 at 12:44 | history | edited | YCor | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 20 at 12:43 | answer | added | Alexandre Eremenko | timeline score: 10 | |
| Mar 20 at 12:35 | answer | added | David White | timeline score: 9 | |
| Mar 20 at 11:45 | comment | added | Andy Putman | There is no standard list, and in my experience people have vastly different internal rankings of journals. Asking trusted mentors (preferably multiple one with different points of view) is really all you can do. | |
| Mar 20 at 11:01 | answer | added | Carlo Beenakker | timeline score: 9 | |
| Mar 20 at 9:51 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Mar 20 at 9:00 | history | asked | erz | CC BY-SA 4.0 |