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Dec 6, 2010 at 0:55 comment added Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine @Vaughn: there is a possible middle way, between universal and probabilistic bounds — recent work by Towsner, Avigad, Tao and others (I’m a bit out of date on this) on the constructive content of ergodic theory gives a lot of strong statements along these lines. Typically, quantitative versions of the hypotheses (replacing “the trajectories are non-periodic” by some quantitative data on how far they are from being periodic) gives quantitative versions of the conclusions, such as (in this case, I expect) a hard upper bound on the clustering times. I know Henry Towsner is on MO, so hopefully…
Nov 17, 2010 at 22:41 comment added Vaughn Climenhaga We can't give a universal upper bound, but we can give explicit estimates for the expected return time. Good point about not being able to say anything about every trajectory, though; the best we can do is something probabilistic.
Nov 17, 2010 at 22:38 comment added Joseph O'Rourke Ah, that makes perfect sense! So I guess the question for air molecules involves random trajectories.
Nov 17, 2010 at 22:34 history answered Ian Morris CC BY-SA 2.5