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Apr 3 at 22:21 history edited Tobias Fritz CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jan 31 at 8:12 comment added JP McCarthy They take also not take bounded but all real valued functions.
Jan 31 at 7:20 comment added JP McCarthy Ah yes, I am stupid. Two of those maps have a $-1-x$ and they are not operators on that Hilbert space... and if we change the Hilbert space appropriately then they are not bounded.
Jan 31 at 7:15 comment added Tobias Fritz Good point, then I'm confused as well... Perhaps let us know if you figure it out?
Jan 31 at 6:38 comment added JP McCarthy .... but the same paper claims you cannot sum four non-trivial idempotents to zero in a Banach algebra... I am actually giving a talk in a small seminar today we might tease this out there.
Jan 31 at 5:20 comment added Tobias Fritz It looks like they do, right? So you can even get a non-orthogonal partition of unity (consisting of non-self-adjoint idempotents) in a C*-algebra.
Jan 30 at 19:29 comment added JP McCarthy The latest (surely stupid) confusion: why don't the $P,Q,R,S$ define bounded operators on $L^2([0,1])$...
Jan 30 at 7:16 comment added JP McCarthy OK I understand that the $\pi$ is just an algebra homomorphism.
Jan 30 at 7:05 comment added Tobias Fritz Uhm not exactly, I'm not trying to construct an involution on $A$, but only on the universal algebra $B$ (where the involution is your $\tau$, provided that your opp also involves complex conjugation in order to make the involution conjugate linear). Like you, I'm also skeptical about $A$ having an involution. Having an involution on $B$ is enough because the generating projections in $B$ are non-orthogonal, by virtue of the $\pi(p_i)$ being non-orthogonal in $A$.
Jan 30 at 6:51 comment added JP McCarthy Great, thank you. So, if I don't want to get down in the weeds in $A=*\text{-}\operatorname{alg}\langle P,Q,R,S,I\rangle$ and $A^{\text{opp}}$, but still be fussy, with $B$ the universal *-algebra in this question, and by the universal property I have *-homomorphisms $\pi:B\to A$ and $\tau:B\to B^{\text{opp}}$, and I can define an involution on $A$ by: $\pi(f)^*=\pi(\tau(f))$... which is just exactly what you are saying.
Jan 30 at 6:43 vote accept JP McCarthy
Jan 30 at 6:42 comment added Tobias Fritz Yes. the involution amounts to choosing a homomorphism to its (complex conjugate) opposite algebra, and this follows from an application of the universal property defined by the presentation. You cannot always do this, for example for $\langle a, b \mid a b = 1\rangle$ you clearly do not get a homomorphism to the opposite algebra by mapping each generator to itself. As mentioned in the answer, it works in the case at hand because the relations only involve palindromes.
Jan 30 at 6:38 comment added JP McCarthy by the universal property. And that feels OK. But surely in that case we should be able to put the *-structure on $\operatorname{alg}\langle P,Q,R,S,I\rangle\subseteq L(\ell^{\infty}(\mathbb{R}))$ and just have an explicit counterexample in *-$\operatorname{alg}\langle P,Q,R,S,I\rangle\subseteq L(\ell^{\infty}(\mathbb{R}))$? It must be the case that for algebras that do not admit a * that the opposite algebra is really very different.
Jan 30 at 6:35 comment added JP McCarthy Example 4.2 gives four projections $P,Q,R,S$ in $L(\ell^\infty(\mathbb{R}))$. I am happy with the unital algebra generated by these, say $A_0=\operatorname{alg}\langle P,Q,R,S,I\rangle$. I am tentative about the *-operation here, and in the two universal algebras above and in the comments. Essentially, I see ye choosing as the involution a homomorphism $A_0\to A_0^{\text{opp}}$. And my concern is that it feels like you can always do this... which seems wrong. Perhaps the point I am missing is that if $A$ is universal and $A^{\text{op}}$ satisfies same relations then there is a homomorphism...
Jan 30 at 6:07 history edited Tobias Fritz CC BY-SA 4.0
notation consistent with OP, typo
Jan 29 at 19:54 history answered Tobias Fritz CC BY-SA 4.0