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The theory $T_0$ = ZFC + "there is an inaccessible $\kappa$ such that every wellorder of a subset of $V_{\kappa+1}$ which is definable over $V_{\kappa+1}$ from parameters has length $<\kappa^+$" is equiconsistent with $T_1=$ ZFC + "there are two inaccessible cardinals". These are in fact also equiconsistent with $T_0^+$, where this is like $T_0$, but we allow any wellorders definable over $V$ from parameters in $V_{\kappa+1}$.

Proof: Assuming $T_0$ holds, note that $\kappa$ and $\kappa^+$ are both inaccessible in $L$. (Otherwise $\kappa^+$ is a successor cardinal in $L$, say $\kappa^+=\gamma^{+L}$, but then from a set $A\subseteq\kappa$ which codes a wellorder of length $\gamma$, we can define over $V_{\kappa+1}$ a wellorder of some subset of $\mathcal{P}(\kappa)$ of length $\gamma^{+L}$, using the usual $L$-definability.

Now suppose $T_1$ holds, and let $G$ be $V$-generic for the Levy collapse making $\lambda=\kappa^{+V[G]}$. Then $V[G]$ satisfies $T_0$, as witnessed by $\kappa$. Then $V_\kappa^{V[G]}=V_\kappa$ and $\kappa$ is still inaccessible in $V[G]$ (since the forcing is ${<\kappa}$-closed). Now let $A\subseteq\kappa$ with $A\in V[G]$, and let $W$ be a wellorder of some subset of $\mathcal{P}(\kappa)\cap V[G]$ which is definable over $V[G]$ from the parameter $A$. There is $\beta<\lambda$ such that $A\in V[G\upharpoonright\beta]$. Now I claim that every $X\subseteq\kappa$ which is in the field of $W$, is in $V[G\upharpoonright\beta]$, and so the length of $W$ is $<\lambda=\kappa^{+V[G]}$. This is just the usual argument using the homogeneity of the factor forcing producing $G\upharpoonright[\beta,\lambda)$. (So not only are the wellorders definable over $V_{\kappa+1}^{V[G]}$ from parameters of short length, in fact all those definable over $V[G]$ from parameters in $V_{\kappa+1}^{V[G]}$ are of short length.)

This model was used by Philipp Schlicht for a related construction in "Perfect subsets of generalized Baire spaces and long games" (a preprint can be found here).

The theory $T_0$ = ZFC + "there is an inaccessible $\kappa$ such that every wellorder of a subset of $V_{\kappa+1}$ which is definable over $V_{\kappa+1}$ from parameters has length $<\kappa^+$" is equiconsistent with $T_1=$ ZFC + "there are two inaccessible cardinals". These are in fact also equiconsistent with $T_0^+$, where this is like $T_0$, but we allow any wellorders definable over $V$ from parameters in $V_{\kappa+1}$.

Proof: Assuming $T_0$ holds, note that $\kappa$ and $\kappa^+$ are both inaccessible in $L$. (Otherwise $\kappa^+$ is a successor cardinal in $L$, say $\kappa^+=\gamma^{+L}$, but then from a set $A\subseteq\kappa$ which codes a wellorder of length $\gamma$, we can define over $V_{\kappa+1}$ a wellorder of some subset of $\mathcal{P}(\kappa)$ of length $\gamma^{+L}$, using the usual $L$-definability.

Now suppose $T_1$ holds, and let $G$ be $V$-generic for the Levy collapse making $\lambda=\kappa^{+V[G]}$. Then $V[G]$ satisfies $T_0$, as witnessed by $\kappa$. Then $V_\kappa^{V[G]}=V_\kappa$ and $\kappa$ is still inaccessible in $V[G]$ (since the forcing is ${<\kappa}$-closed). Now let $A\subseteq\kappa$ with $A\in V[G]$, and let $W$ be a wellorder of some subset of $\mathcal{P}(\kappa)\cap V[G]$ which is definable over $V[G]$ from the parameter $A$. There is $\beta<\lambda$ such that $A\in V[G\upharpoonright\beta]$. Now I claim that every $X\subseteq\kappa$ which is in the field of $W$, is in $V[G\upharpoonright\beta]$, and so the length of $W$ is $<\lambda=\kappa^{+V[G]}$. This is just the usual argument using the homogeneity of the factor forcing producing $G\upharpoonright[\beta,\lambda)$. (So not only are the wellorders definable over $V_{\kappa+1}^{V[G]}$ from parameters of short length, in fact all those definable over $V[G]$ from parameters in $V_{\kappa+1}^{V[G]}$ are of short length.)

This model was used by Philipp Schlicht for a related construction in "Perfect subsets of generalized Baire spaces and long games".

The theory $T_0$ = ZFC + "there is an inaccessible $\kappa$ such that every wellorder of a subset of $V_{\kappa+1}$ which is definable over $V_{\kappa+1}$ from parameters has length $<\kappa^+$" is equiconsistent with $T_1=$ ZFC + "there are two inaccessible cardinals". These are in fact also equiconsistent with $T_0^+$, where this is like $T_0$, but we allow any wellorders definable over $V$ from parameters in $V_{\kappa+1}$.

Proof: Assuming $T_0$ holds, note that $\kappa$ and $\kappa^+$ are both inaccessible in $L$. (Otherwise $\kappa^+$ is a successor cardinal in $L$, say $\kappa^+=\gamma^{+L}$, but then from a set $A\subseteq\kappa$ which codes a wellorder of length $\gamma$, we can define over $V_{\kappa+1}$ a wellorder of some subset of $\mathcal{P}(\kappa)$ of length $\gamma^{+L}$, using the usual $L$-definability.

Now suppose $T_1$ holds, and let $G$ be $V$-generic for the Levy collapse making $\lambda=\kappa^{+V[G]}$. Then $V[G]$ satisfies $T_0$, as witnessed by $\kappa$. Then $V_\kappa^{V[G]}=V_\kappa$ and $\kappa$ is still inaccessible in $V[G]$ (since the forcing is ${<\kappa}$-closed). Now let $A\subseteq\kappa$ with $A\in V[G]$, and let $W$ be a wellorder of some subset of $\mathcal{P}(\kappa)\cap V[G]$ which is definable over $V[G]$ from the parameter $A$. There is $\beta<\lambda$ such that $A\in V[G\upharpoonright\beta]$. Now I claim that every $X\subseteq\kappa$ which is in the field of $W$, is in $V[G\upharpoonright\beta]$, and so the length of $W$ is $<\lambda=\kappa^{+V[G]}$. This is just the usual argument using the homogeneity of the factor forcing producing $G\upharpoonright[\beta,\lambda)$. (So not only are the wellorders definable over $V_{\kappa+1}^{V[G]}$ from parameters of short length, in fact all those definable over $V[G]$ from parameters in $V_{\kappa+1}^{V[G]}$ are of short length.)

This model was used by Philipp Schlicht for a related construction in "Perfect subsets of generalized Baire spaces and long games" (a preprint can be found here).

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The theory $T_0$ = ZFC + "there is an inaccessible $\kappa$ such that every wellorder of a subset of $V_{\kappa+1}$ which is definable over $V_{\kappa+1}$ from parameters has length $<\kappa^+$" is equiconsistent with $T_1=$ ZFC + "there are two inaccessible cardinals". These are in fact also equiconsistent with $T_0^+$, where this is like $T_0$, but we allow any wellorders definable over $V$ from parameters in $V_{\kappa+1}$.

Proof: Assuming $T_0$ holds, note that $\kappa$ and $\kappa^+$ are both inaccessible in $L$. (Otherwise $\kappa^+$ is a successor cardinal in $L$, say $\kappa^+=\gamma^{+L}$, but then from a set $A\subseteq\kappa$ which codes a wellorder of length $\gamma$, we can define over $V_{\kappa+1}$ a wellorder of some subset of $\mathcal{P}(\kappa)$ of length $\gamma^{+L}$, using the usual $L$-definability.

Now suppose $T_1$ holds, and let $G$ be $V$-generic for the Levy collapse making $\lambda=\kappa^{+V[G]}$. Then $V[G]$ satisfies $T_0$, as witnessed by $\kappa$. Then $V_\kappa^{V[G]}=V_\kappa$ and $\kappa$ is still inaccessible in $V[G]$ (since the forcing is ${<\kappa}$-closed). Now let $A\subseteq\kappa$ with $A\in V[G]$, and let $W$ be a wellorder of some subset of $\mathcal{P}(\kappa)\cap V[G]$ which is definable over $V[G]$ from the parameter $A$. There is $\beta<\lambda$ such that $A\in V[G\upharpoonright\beta]$. Now I claim that every $X\subseteq\kappa$ which is in the field of $W$, is in $V[G\upharpoonright\beta]$, and so the length of $W$ is $<\lambda=\kappa^{+V[G]}$. This is just the usual argument using the homogeneity of the factor forcing producing $G\upharpoonright[\beta,\lambda)$. (So not only are the wellorders definable over $V_{\kappa+1}^{V[G]}$ from parameters of short length, in fact all those definable over $V[G]$ from parameters in $V_{\kappa+1}^{V[G]}$ are of short length.)

This model was used by Philipp Schlicht for a related construction in "Perfect subsets of generalized Baire spaces and long games".

The theory $T_0$ = ZFC + "there is an inaccessible $\kappa$ such that every wellorder of a subset of $V_{\kappa+1}$ which is definable over $V_{\kappa+1}$ from parameters has length $<\kappa^+$" is equiconsistent with $T_1=$ ZFC + "there are two inaccessible cardinals". These are in fact also equiconsistent with $T_0^+$, where this is like $T_0$, but we allow any wellorders definable over $V$ from parameters in $V_{\kappa+1}$.

Proof: Assuming $T_0$ holds, note that $\kappa$ and $\kappa^+$ are both inaccessible in $L$. (Otherwise $\kappa^+$ is a successor cardinal in $L$, say $\kappa^+=\gamma^{+L}$, but then from a set $A\subseteq\kappa$ which codes a wellorder of length $\gamma$, we can define over $V_{\kappa+1}$ a wellorder of some subset of $\mathcal{P}(\kappa)$ of length $\gamma^{+L}$, using the usual $L$-definability.

Now suppose $T_1$ holds, and let $G$ be $V$-generic for the Levy collapse making $\lambda=\kappa^{+V[G]}$. Then $V[G]$ satisfies $T_0$, as witnessed by $\kappa$. Then $V_\kappa^{V[G]}=V_\kappa$ and $\kappa$ is still inaccessible in $V[G]$ (since the forcing is ${<\kappa}$-closed). Now let $A\subseteq\kappa$ with $A\in V[G]$, and let $W$ be a wellorder of some subset of $\mathcal{P}(\kappa)\cap V[G]$ which is definable over $V[G]$ from the parameter $A$. There is $\beta<\lambda$ such that $A\in V[G\upharpoonright\beta]$. Now I claim that every $X\subseteq\kappa$ which is in the field of $W$, is in $V[G\upharpoonright\beta]$, and so the length of $W$ is $<\lambda=\kappa^{+V[G]}$. This is just the usual argument using the homogeneity of the factor forcing producing $G\upharpoonright[\beta,\lambda)$. (So not only are the wellorders definable over $V_{\kappa+1}^{V[G]}$ from parameters of short length, in fact all those definable over $V[G]$ from parameters in $V_{\kappa+1}^{V[G]}$ are of short length.)

The theory $T_0$ = ZFC + "there is an inaccessible $\kappa$ such that every wellorder of a subset of $V_{\kappa+1}$ which is definable over $V_{\kappa+1}$ from parameters has length $<\kappa^+$" is equiconsistent with $T_1=$ ZFC + "there are two inaccessible cardinals". These are in fact also equiconsistent with $T_0^+$, where this is like $T_0$, but we allow any wellorders definable over $V$ from parameters in $V_{\kappa+1}$.

Proof: Assuming $T_0$ holds, note that $\kappa$ and $\kappa^+$ are both inaccessible in $L$. (Otherwise $\kappa^+$ is a successor cardinal in $L$, say $\kappa^+=\gamma^{+L}$, but then from a set $A\subseteq\kappa$ which codes a wellorder of length $\gamma$, we can define over $V_{\kappa+1}$ a wellorder of some subset of $\mathcal{P}(\kappa)$ of length $\gamma^{+L}$, using the usual $L$-definability.

Now suppose $T_1$ holds, and let $G$ be $V$-generic for the Levy collapse making $\lambda=\kappa^{+V[G]}$. Then $V[G]$ satisfies $T_0$, as witnessed by $\kappa$. Then $V_\kappa^{V[G]}=V_\kappa$ and $\kappa$ is still inaccessible in $V[G]$ (since the forcing is ${<\kappa}$-closed). Now let $A\subseteq\kappa$ with $A\in V[G]$, and let $W$ be a wellorder of some subset of $\mathcal{P}(\kappa)\cap V[G]$ which is definable over $V[G]$ from the parameter $A$. There is $\beta<\lambda$ such that $A\in V[G\upharpoonright\beta]$. Now I claim that every $X\subseteq\kappa$ which is in the field of $W$, is in $V[G\upharpoonright\beta]$, and so the length of $W$ is $<\lambda=\kappa^{+V[G]}$. This is just the usual argument using the homogeneity of the factor forcing producing $G\upharpoonright[\beta,\lambda)$. (So not only are the wellorders definable over $V_{\kappa+1}^{V[G]}$ from parameters of short length, in fact all those definable over $V[G]$ from parameters in $V_{\kappa+1}^{V[G]}$ are of short length.)

This model was used by Philipp Schlicht for a related construction in "Perfect subsets of generalized Baire spaces and long games".

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Farmer S
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The theory $T_0$ = ZFC + "there is an inaccessible $\kappa$ such that every wellorder of a subset of $V_{\kappa+1}$ which is definable over $V_{\kappa+1}$ from parameters has length $<\kappa^+$" is equiconsistent with $T_1=$ ZFC + "there are two inaccessible cardinals". These are in fact also equiconsistent with $T_0^+$, where this is like $T_0$, but we allow any wellorders definable over $V$ from parameters in $V_{\kappa+1}$.

Proof: Assuming $T_0$ holds, note that $\kappa$ and $\kappa^+$ are both inaccessible in $L$. (Otherwise $\kappa^+$ is a successor cardinal in $L$, say $\kappa^+=\gamma^{+L}$, but then from a set $A\subseteq\kappa$ which codes a wellorder of length $\gamma$, we can define over $V_{\kappa+1}$ a wellorder of some subset of $\mathcal{P}(\kappa)$ of length $\gamma^{+L}$, using the usual $L$-definability.

Now suppose $T_1$ holds, and let $G$ be $V$-generic for the Levy collapse making $\lambda=\kappa^{+V[G]}$. Then $V[G]$ satisfies $T_0$, as witnessed by $\kappa$. Then $V_\kappa^{V[G]}=V_\kappa$ and $\kappa$ is still inaccessible in $V[G]$ (since the forcing is ${<\kappa}$-closed). Now let $A\subseteq\kappa$ with $A\in V[G]$, and let $W$ be a wellorder of some subset of $\mathcal{P}(\kappa)\cap V[G]$ which is definable over $V[G]$ from the parameter $A$. There is $\beta<\lambda$ such that $A\in V[G\upharpoonright\beta]$. Now I claim that every $X\subseteq\kappa$ which is in the field of $W$, is in $V[G\upharpoonright\beta]$, and so the length of $W$ is $<\lambda=\kappa^{+V[G]}$. This is just the usual argument using the homogeneity of the factor forcing producing $G\upharpoonright[\beta,\lambda)$. (So not only are the wellorders definable over $V_{\kappa+1}^{V[G]}$ from parameters of short length, in fact all those definable over $V[G]$ from parameters in $V_{\kappa+1}^{V[G]}$ are of short length.)