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For the duration of this question, let a "surface" be any connected Hausdorff topological space that is locally homeomorphic to R2. Note that we make no assumption about a countable base to its topology.

For instance, if L denotes the long ray 𝜔1 × [0, 1) with the lexicographic order topology (𝜔1 is the first uncountable ordinal) and O denotes its endpoint, then we definelet the long plane P asbe L × S1 with {O} × S1 identified to a point.

Define a maximal surface as one that is not a proper subspace of any other surface.

Edit: Because I naïvely thought the long plane et al. were contractible, it is necessary to define a similar notion that holds for these non-metrizable surfaces.

Definition: Call any surface jordan if every simple closed curve bounds a topological 2-disk D2 and the complement of this 2-disk is noncompact.

Then the long plane P is a jordan maximal surface.

Questions:

1. Are all jordan maximal surfaces homeomorphic to P?

2. Is it true that every jordan surface N is a subspace of a jordan maximal one?

(I suspect there is a proof with Zorn's Lemma, but the details are delicate and have so far escaped me.)

3. If 2. is true, is a maximal surface containing a given jordan surface N unique up to homeomorphism?

4. In particular: Consider the Prüfer manifold M.* If M is a subspace of a jordan maximal surface, what is its description, and is it unique up to homeomorphism?


* One way to define M: For each c ∈ ℝ, take a disjoint copy Hc of the open upper half-plane, and one more copy called H. Now for each c ∈ ℝ, identify H with the subspace of Hc obtained by mapping each point p ∈ H to the point q ∈ Hc corresponding to pushing p directly away from c by exactly one unit. (I.e., q = p + (p-c)/|p-c|, if we view an upper half-plane as complex.) The image of H will be Hc minus a 2D semicirclesemidisk of radius 1 about c. M is the resulting identification space. (M is clearly not maximal.)

For the duration of this question, let a "surface" be any connected Hausdorff topological space that is locally homeomorphic to R2. Note that we make no assumption about a countable base to its topology.

For instance, if L denotes the long ray 𝜔1 × [0, 1) with the lexicographic order topology (𝜔1 is the first uncountable ordinal) and O denotes its endpoint, then we define the long plane P as L × S1 with {O} × S1 identified to a point.

Define a maximal surface as one that is not a proper subspace of any other surface.

Edit: Because I naïvely thought the long plane et al. were contractible, it is necessary to define a similar notion that holds for these non-metrizable surfaces.

Definition: Call any surface jordan if every simple closed curve bounds a topological 2-disk D2 and the complement of this 2-disk is noncompact.

Then the long plane P is a jordan maximal surface.

Questions:

1. Are all jordan maximal surfaces homeomorphic to P?

2. Is it true that every jordan surface N is a subspace of a jordan maximal one?

(I suspect there is a proof with Zorn's Lemma, but the details are delicate and have so far escaped me.)

3. If 2. is true, is a maximal surface containing a given jordan surface N unique up to homeomorphism?

4. In particular: Consider the Prüfer manifold M.* If M is a subspace of a jordan maximal surface, what is its description, and is it unique up to homeomorphism?


* One way to define M: For each c ∈ ℝ, take a disjoint copy Hc of the open upper half-plane, and one more copy called H. Now for each c ∈ ℝ, identify H with the subspace of Hc obtained by mapping each point p ∈ H to the point q ∈ Hc corresponding to pushing p directly away from c by exactly one unit. (I.e., q = p + (p-c)/|p-c|, if we view an upper half-plane as complex.) The image of H will be Hc minus a 2D semicircle of radius 1 about c. M is the resulting identification space. (M is clearly not maximal.)

For the duration of this question, let a "surface" be any connected Hausdorff topological space that is locally homeomorphic to R2. Note that we make no assumption about a countable base to its topology.

For instance, if L denotes the long ray 𝜔1 × [0, 1) with the lexicographic order topology (𝜔1 is the first uncountable ordinal) and O denotes its endpoint, then let the long plane P be L × S1 with {O} × S1 identified to a point.

Define a maximal surface as one that is not a proper subspace of any other surface.

Edit: Because I naïvely thought the long plane et al. were contractible, it is necessary to define a similar notion that holds for these non-metrizable surfaces.

Definition: Call any surface jordan if every simple closed curve bounds a topological 2-disk D2 and the complement of this 2-disk is noncompact.

Then the long plane P is a jordan maximal surface.

Questions:

1. Are all jordan maximal surfaces homeomorphic to P?

2. Is it true that every jordan surface N is a subspace of a jordan maximal one?

(I suspect there is a proof with Zorn's Lemma, but the details are delicate and have so far escaped me.)

3. If 2. is true, is a maximal surface containing a given jordan surface N unique up to homeomorphism?

4. In particular: Consider the Prüfer manifold M.* If M is a subspace of a jordan maximal surface, what is its description, and is it unique up to homeomorphism?


* One way to define M: For each c ∈ ℝ, take a disjoint copy Hc of the open upper half-plane, and one more copy called H. Now for each c ∈ ℝ, identify H with the subspace of Hc obtained by mapping each point p ∈ H to the point q ∈ Hc corresponding to pushing p directly away from c by exactly one unit. (I.e., q = p + (p-c)/|p-c|, if we view an upper half-plane as complex.) The image of H will be Hc minus a semidisk of radius 1 about c. M is the resulting identification space. (M is clearly not maximal.)

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For the duration of this question, let a "surface" be any connected Hausdorff topological space that is locally homeomorphic to R2. Note that we make no assumption about a countable base to its topology.

For instance, if L denotes the long ray 𝜔1 × [0, 1) with the lexicographic order topology (𝜔1 is the first uncountable ordinal) and O denotes its endpoint, then we define the long plane P as L × S1 with {O} × S1 identified to a point.

Define a maximal surface as one that is not a proper subspace of any other surface.

Edit: Because I naïvely thought the long plane et al. were contractible, it is necessary to define a similar notion that holds for these non-metrizable surfaces.

Definition: Call any surface jordan if every simple closed curve bounds a topological 2-disk D2 and the complement of this 2-disk is noncompact.

Then the long plane P is a jordan maximal surface.

Questions:

1. Are all jordan maximal surfaces homeomorphic to P?

2. Is it true that every jordan surface N is a subspace of a jordan maximal one?

(I suspect there is a proof with Zorn's Lemma, but the details are delicate and have so far escaped me.)

3. If 2. is true, is a maximal surface containing a given jordan surface N unique up to homeomorphism?

4. In particular: Consider the Prüfer manifold M.* If M is a subspace of a jordan maximal surface, what is its description, and is it unique up to homeomorphism?


* One way to define M: For each c ∈ ℝ, take a disjoint copy Hc of the open upper half-plane, and one more copy called H. Now for each c ∈ ℝ, identify H with the subspace of Hc obtained by mapping each point p ∈ H to the point q ∈ Hc corresponding to pushing p directly away from c by exactly one unit. (I.e., q = p + (p-c)/∥p|p-c∥c|, if we view an upper half-plane as complex.) The image of H will be Hc minus a 2D semicircle of radius 1 about c. M is the resulting identification space. (M is clearly not maximal.)

For the duration of this question, let a "surface" be any connected Hausdorff topological space that is locally homeomorphic to R2. Note that we make no assumption about a countable base to its topology.

For instance, if L denotes the long ray 𝜔1 × [0, 1) with the lexicographic order topology (𝜔1 is the first uncountable ordinal) and O denotes its endpoint, then we define the long plane P as L × S1 with {O} × S1 identified to a point.

Define a maximal surface as one that is not a proper subspace of any other surface.

Edit: Because I naïvely thought the long plane et al. were contractible, it is necessary to define a similar notion that holds for these non-metrizable surfaces.

Definition: Call any surface jordan if every simple closed curve bounds a topological 2-disk D2 and the complement of this 2-disk is noncompact.

Then the long plane P is a jordan maximal surface.

Questions:

1. Are all jordan maximal surfaces homeomorphic to P?

2. Is it true that every jordan surface N is a subspace of a jordan maximal one?

(I suspect there is a proof with Zorn's Lemma, but the details are delicate and have so far escaped me.)

3. If 2. is true, is a maximal surface containing a given jordan surface N unique up to homeomorphism?

4. In particular: Consider the Prüfer manifold M.* If M is a subspace of a jordan maximal surface, what is its description, and is it unique up to homeomorphism?


* One way to define M: For each c ∈ ℝ, take a disjoint copy Hc of the open upper half-plane, and one more copy called H. Now for each c ∈ ℝ, identify H with the subspace of Hc obtained by mapping each point p ∈ H to the point q ∈ Hc corresponding to pushing p directly away from c by exactly one unit. (I.e., q = p + (p-c)/∥p-c∥, if we view an upper half-plane as complex.) The image of H will be Hc minus a 2D semicircle of radius 1 about c. M is the resulting identification space. (M is clearly not maximal.)

For the duration of this question, let a "surface" be any connected Hausdorff topological space that is locally homeomorphic to R2. Note that we make no assumption about a countable base to its topology.

For instance, if L denotes the long ray 𝜔1 × [0, 1) with the lexicographic order topology (𝜔1 is the first uncountable ordinal) and O denotes its endpoint, then we define the long plane P as L × S1 with {O} × S1 identified to a point.

Define a maximal surface as one that is not a proper subspace of any other surface.

Edit: Because I naïvely thought the long plane et al. were contractible, it is necessary to define a similar notion that holds for these non-metrizable surfaces.

Definition: Call any surface jordan if every simple closed curve bounds a topological 2-disk D2 and the complement of this 2-disk is noncompact.

Then the long plane P is a jordan maximal surface.

Questions:

1. Are all jordan maximal surfaces homeomorphic to P?

2. Is it true that every jordan surface N is a subspace of a jordan maximal one?

(I suspect there is a proof with Zorn's Lemma, but the details are delicate and have so far escaped me.)

3. If 2. is true, is a maximal surface containing a given jordan surface N unique up to homeomorphism?

4. In particular: Consider the Prüfer manifold M.* If M is a subspace of a jordan maximal surface, what is its description, and is it unique up to homeomorphism?


* One way to define M: For each c ∈ ℝ, take a disjoint copy Hc of the open upper half-plane, and one more copy called H. Now for each c ∈ ℝ, identify H with the subspace of Hc obtained by mapping each point p ∈ H to the point q ∈ Hc corresponding to pushing p directly away from c by exactly one unit. (I.e., q = p + (p-c)/|p-c|, if we view an upper half-plane as complex.) The image of H will be Hc minus a 2D semicircle of radius 1 about c. M is the resulting identification space. (M is clearly not maximal.)

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For the duration of this question, let a "surface" be any connected Hausdorff topological space that is locally homeomorphic to R2. Note that we make no assumption about a countable base to its topology.

For instance, if L denotes the long ray 𝜔1 × [0, 1) with the lexicographic order topology (𝜔1 is the first uncountable ordinal) and O denotes its endpoint, then we define the long plane P as L × S1 with {O} × S1 identified to a point.

Define a maximal surface as one that is not a proper subspace of any other surface.

Edit: Because I naïvely thought the long plane et al. were contractible, it is necessary to define a similar notion that holds for these non-metrizable surfaces.

Definition: Call any surface jordan if every simple closed curve bounds a topological 2-disk D2 and the complement of this 2-disk is noncompact.

Then the long plane P is a jordan maximal surface.

Questions:

1. Are all jordan maximal surfaces homeomorphic to P?

2. Is it true that every jordan surface N is a subspace of a jordan maximal one?

(I suspect there is a proof with Zorn's Lemma, but the details are delicate and have so far escaped me.)

3. If 2. is true, is a maximal surface containing a given jordan surface N unique up to homeomorphism?

4. In particular: Consider the Prüfer manifold M.* If M is a subspace of a jordan maximal surface, what is its description, and is it unique up to homeomorphism?


* One way to define M: For each c ∈ ℝ, take a disjoint copy Hc of the open upper half-plane, and one more copy called H. Now for each c ∈ ℝ, identify H with the subspace of Hc obtained by mapping each point p ∈ H to the point q ∈ Hc corresponding to pushing p directly away from c by exactly one unit. (I.e., q = p + (p-c)/∥p-c∥, if we view an upper half-plane as complex.) The image of H will be Hc minus a 2D semicircle of radius 1 about c. M is the resulting identification space. (M is clearly not maximal.)

For the duration of this question, let a "surface" be any connected Hausdorff topological space that is locally homeomorphic to R2. Note that we make no assumption about a countable base to its topology.

For instance, if L denotes the long ray 𝜔1 × [0, 1) with the lexicographic order topology (𝜔1 is the first uncountable ordinal) and O denotes its endpoint, then we define the long plane P as L × S1 with {O} × S1 identified to a point.

Define a maximal surface as one that is not a proper subspace of any other surface.

Edit: Because I naïvely thought the long plane et al. were contractible, it is necessary to define a similar notion that holds for these non-metrizable surfaces.

Definition: Call any surface jordan if every simple closed curve bounds a topological 2-disk D2 and the complement of this 2-disk is noncompact.

Then the long plane P is a jordan maximal surface.

Questions:

1. Are all jordan maximal surfaces homeomorphic to P?

2. Is it true that every jordan surface N is a subspace of a jordan maximal one?

(I suspect there is a proof with Zorn's Lemma, but the details are delicate and have so far escaped me.)

3. If 2. is true, is a maximal surface containing a given jordan surface N unique up to homeomorphism?

4. In particular: Consider the Prüfer manifold M.* If M is a subspace of a jordan maximal surface, what is its description, and is it unique up to homeomorphism?


* One way to define M: For each c ∈ ℝ, take a disjoint copy Hc of the open upper half-plane, and one more copy called H. Now for each c ∈ ℝ, identify H with the subspace of Hc obtained by mapping each point p ∈ H to the point q ∈ Hc corresponding to pushing p directly away from c by exactly one unit. (I.e., q = p + (p-c)/∥p-c∥.) The image of H will be Hc minus a 2D semicircle of radius 1 about c. M is the resulting identification space. (M is clearly not maximal.)

For the duration of this question, let a "surface" be any connected Hausdorff topological space that is locally homeomorphic to R2. Note that we make no assumption about a countable base to its topology.

For instance, if L denotes the long ray 𝜔1 × [0, 1) with the lexicographic order topology (𝜔1 is the first uncountable ordinal) and O denotes its endpoint, then we define the long plane P as L × S1 with {O} × S1 identified to a point.

Define a maximal surface as one that is not a proper subspace of any other surface.

Edit: Because I naïvely thought the long plane et al. were contractible, it is necessary to define a similar notion that holds for these non-metrizable surfaces.

Definition: Call any surface jordan if every simple closed curve bounds a topological 2-disk D2 and the complement of this 2-disk is noncompact.

Then the long plane P is a jordan maximal surface.

Questions:

1. Are all jordan maximal surfaces homeomorphic to P?

2. Is it true that every jordan surface N is a subspace of a jordan maximal one?

(I suspect there is a proof with Zorn's Lemma, but the details are delicate and have so far escaped me.)

3. If 2. is true, is a maximal surface containing a given jordan surface N unique up to homeomorphism?

4. In particular: Consider the Prüfer manifold M.* If M is a subspace of a jordan maximal surface, what is its description, and is it unique up to homeomorphism?


* One way to define M: For each c ∈ ℝ, take a disjoint copy Hc of the open upper half-plane, and one more copy called H. Now for each c ∈ ℝ, identify H with the subspace of Hc obtained by mapping each point p ∈ H to the point q ∈ Hc corresponding to pushing p directly away from c by exactly one unit. (I.e., q = p + (p-c)/∥p-c∥, if we view an upper half-plane as complex.) The image of H will be Hc minus a 2D semicircle of radius 1 about c. M is the resulting identification space. (M is clearly not maximal.)

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