Timeline for What to do after a pure math academic path?
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| Oct 31, 2022 at 15:42 | comment | added | coco | @bubba no i didn't mean that i wanted to become a farmer.. :) here it is difficult to find a job at 20h/week, in general it is 40h/week. | |
| Oct 29, 2022 at 2:19 | comment | added | bubba | Well, you can go somewhere and live as a self-sufficient farmer, if that’s how you want to provide yourself with food, clothing, and shelter. But that’s a taxing full-time job, and you might not have enough time/energy left over to do mathematics. At the other end of the spectrum, you might be able to make enough money to live by working 20 hours/week as a contract programmer. | |
| Oct 27, 2022 at 16:00 | comment | added | coco | @TimothyChow i never said i was not contradictory. I understand your point of view, but it is how i lived until last month - doing not useful maths and still being paid. The only useful part that we do is to teach, but this represents only 20% of our work (in Switzerland). Please see my reply to bubba just above regarding my problems with the concept of money and society | |
| Oct 27, 2022 at 15:55 | comment | added | coco | @bubba indeed i hope that anyway i will have some time to continue my research whatever will be my path. But still i find it sad and depressing not appreciating one's job, it takes a lot of time in life, 8 hours a day 5 days a week! for 30 years until retirement, i find it terribly long if i don't like what i do. In fact i have worked a year for hospital doing programming between my PhD and first postdoc, and i didn't like it at all, so it is hard to go into this for the rest of my career :/ | |
| Oct 27, 2022 at 15:45 | comment | added | coco | @bubba you are totally right, I do see maths like a branch of art. I know that almost nobody cares of it, so in this world based on money that's problematic. I would rather have dreamed of a world without the concept of money where we all take part in our everyday needs, e.g. raising vegetables and animals, then make cheese from them, and knitting clothes, and building our own houses. All this based from the help of one another :) Therefore one would have some spare time to do one's hobby like maths or whatever you love even if it is not useful... :) | |
| Oct 27, 2022 at 15:40 | comment | added | coco | @bubba thank you for your answer. I do think that something has happened to the world, I mean, maths exist by itself, people created a language so that one can exchange with each other, and we discover things that exist independently of human beings. I think God has created the Universe and its mathematical description. We are just playing with it, but we haven't done anything. Though finance and data science don't come from God but from human misperception of Universe, imo. | |
| Oct 26, 2022 at 8:15 | comment | added | bubba | @AlexanderWoo I don’t know if I’d agree with “most likely”, but some employers certainly think that way. Writing shoddy software cheaply and quickly might maximize short-term profits, but damage long-term ones. And without short-term profits, there is no long term, in some companies. So, in those companies, cheap and fast are the right objectives, and everything else is a luxury. | |
| Oct 24, 2022 at 22:54 | comment | added | Alexander Woo | The problem with software is that your employer is most likely to want you to create poorly-constructed software cheaply and quickly rather than create well-constructed software. | |
| Oct 23, 2022 at 23:12 | comment | added | Zhen Lin | +1 last paragraph – software development definitely benefits from rigorous/logical thinking and good sense, though some practitioners are loath to admit it. | |
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| Oct 23, 2022 at 10:20 | comment | added | Timothy Chow | Good answer. I am confused by the OP's comment, "I don't have any interest in anything from the society." But a job is something from the society and the OP is interested in a job. I am sympathetic to the OP's plight, but the starting point has to be a recognition that if you want something (a job) from society then you have to offer something in return. The OP does not like the concept of money, but a job is something that an employer gives you money for doing. | |
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