Timeline for The editor wrote the paper for me
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| Jan 8 at 21:56 | history | made wiki | Post Made Community Wiki by Ben Webster♦ | ||
| Aug 3, 2022 at 8:59 | comment | added | Naptha | I applaud you for caring about this. Even if your concern is entirely due to fear of potential consequences, which isn't the vibe I get from your question, you still get bonus points from me. | |
| Aug 3, 2022 at 6:42 | vote | accept | dodo | ||
| Aug 3, 2022 at 1:36 | comment | added | Greg Friedman | Also, even if the editor does not want to be a co-author, you might show them the new version and ask them to approve of it before submitting elsewhere. Depending on the personality of the editor, he might even be a good resource for suggesting where to submit it. | |
| Aug 3, 2022 at 1:33 | comment | added | Greg Friedman | I agree with all the suggestions to ask the editor to be a co-author. If the editor says no, it would definitely be polite to ask if he would mind you publishing the stronger result with an acknowledgment of his help. But you should not discount your own original contribution, without which the editor might not have thought of the stronger result, plus your work in writing out the details of the editor's sketch. I'd be curous if others disagree, but I think it would be appropriate to provide a short outline of this history in the introduction to the new version, explaining both contributions. | |
| Aug 2, 2022 at 18:21 | comment | added | Will Sawin | This is the advantage of Timothy Chow's language "propose that you and he be coauthors of the paper" or something like "I would like to submit a new version of the article I submitted, based on your email to me, with you as a coauthor. Would this work for you?" | |
| Aug 2, 2022 at 18:20 | comment | added | Will Sawin | In regards to your comment, you can phrase the request in such a way that it does not specify if you have the right to claim authorship of the paper and are generously including him, or he has the right to claim authorship and is generously including you, or neither has a right to exclude the other, or any other moral stance. | |
| Aug 2, 2022 at 16:43 | history | became hot network question | |||
| Aug 2, 2022 at 16:31 | answer | added | Timothy Chow | timeline score: 59 | |
| Aug 2, 2022 at 7:02 | comment | added | Emil Jeřábek | Copyright is all but irrelevant here. The problem is authorship. You can’t just use his ideas as if they were your own. | |
| Aug 2, 2022 at 7:02 | comment | added | Sam Nead | But generally, in academia and prepublication, all of that is ignored and we use different rules. Post publication the journals own the copyrights and act as rentiers, charging everybody for access. | |
| Aug 2, 2022 at 6:59 | comment | added | Sam Nead | As I understand copyright law it does not apply to ideas, but to the expression of ideas in concrete form (music scores, photographs, written work…) So the editor might own the copyright on the email they sent you, but not the copyright on the revised paper. If you extensively and directly quote the email then the revised paper might be called a “derived work” and the editor would have certain claims they could make. | |
| Aug 2, 2022 at 6:54 | comment | added | Sam Nead | If you can, you should ask your advisor for advice. If you can’t, ask the editor if they would like to be a co-author on the revised article. If they say “no” then you should thank them in the acknowledgments. | |
| Aug 2, 2022 at 6:54 | comment | added | dodo | @GerryMyerson I thought since he own the copyright, I should ask him if he is willing to include me as a coauthor? Or does my wording sound too weird? | |
| Aug 2, 2022 at 6:53 | comment | added | Gerry Myerson | You could ask him to be a co-author. | |
| Aug 2, 2022 at 6:30 | history | edited | dodo | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 2, 2022 at 6:23 | history | edited | dodo | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 2, 2022 at 6:17 | history | asked | dodo | CC BY-SA 4.0 |