Timeline for Intuition/meaning behind/physical content of the concept of a smooth structure
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Apr 5, 2022 at 14:48 | comment | added | Arshak Aivazian | @SebastianGoette Wow, you've moved the question in a very good and specific direction! Apparently, a large list of non-topological invariants of smooth manifolds and their intuition would be a satisfactory answer. Thanks a lot! | |
Apr 5, 2022 at 14:14 | comment | added | Sebastian Goette | @AivazianArshak You ask how two homeomorphic non-diffeomorphic manifolds differ. If you have a homeomorphism at hand, they differ by having different sets of smooth functions. So if you can visualise a non-smooth function, you are done. But if you only know that the two manifolds are abstractly homeomorphic, then you need some kind of differential-topological insight to tell you they cannot be diffeomorphic. In a few cases, one can compute some invariants like the Eells-Kuiper invariant for 7-spheres. But I have no clue how to visualise those. Locally, every manifold is smoothable. | |
Mar 23, 2022 at 20:29 | comment | added | Deane Yang | @LSpice, thanks! | |
Mar 23, 2022 at 19:10 | comment | added | LSpice |
MathJax note: As unpleasant as it is, you have to write $\newcommand\R{\mathbb R}$The purpose … , not $\newcommand\R{\mathbb R}$ The purpose … , or your text will have a spurious space. I have edited accordingly.
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Mar 23, 2022 at 19:09 | history | edited | LSpice | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Delete spurious space
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Mar 23, 2022 at 0:23 | comment | added | Deane Yang | Alas, I didn't really answer the question you asked. Unfortunately, I don't see any physical intuition for two homeomorphic but non-diffeomorphic manifolds. Notice that this is a global concept. In general, there will exist diffeomorphisms between dense open subsets of the two manifolds that can be extended uniquely as homeomorphisms that are not diffeomorphisms. | |
Mar 22, 2022 at 23:37 | comment | added | Arshak Aivazian | I understand this (and love the language of sheaves), but it does not answer the question of what physical idea the notion of smooth structure captures. Imagine two homeomorphic non-isometric metric spaces. You see how they differ. Imagine two homeomorphic non-diffmomorphic manifolds. Do you see how they differ? | |
Mar 22, 2022 at 23:26 | comment | added | Deane Yang | Oops. I forgot return to functions. You can now say that a function $f: M \rightarrow \R$, where $M$ is a smooth manifold, is smooth if $f\circ\Phi^{-1}: \phi(O) \rightarrow \R$ is smooth for any coordinate map $\phi$. The assumption on the change of coordinate maps is the necessary and sufficient condition that you don't run into any logical inconsistencies in this definition. | |
Mar 22, 2022 at 23:19 | history | answered | Deane Yang | CC BY-SA 4.0 |