Timeline for Prove: Lie algebra generated by two $n\times n$ shift matrices is $\mathfrak{so}(n,\mathbb{C})$ ($n$ odd) or $\mathfrak{sp}(n,\mathbb{C})$ ($n$ even)
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Sep 6, 2021 at 9:02 | vote | accept | WunderNatur | ||
Sep 5, 2021 at 8:27 | answer | added | Paul Levy | timeline score: 4 | |
Sep 2, 2021 at 7:02 | comment | added | YCor | @LSpice Yes: any Lie subalgebra of $gl_n$ whose action is completely reducible (over a field of char 0) is reductive (=semisimple $\times$ abelian). A similar result holds for linear algebraic groups (with "reductive" in the usual sense of algebraic groups). | |
Sep 1, 2021 at 23:42 | comment | added | LSpice | @YCor, I know reductivity as a condition on all representations. Under what circumstances can you check it by looking at a single representation? (Is the relevant point that the representation is faithful?) | |
Sep 1, 2021 at 7:30 | comment | added | YCor | Other remark: The standard representation is clearly (absolutely) irreducible, so the generated Lie algebra $g_n$ is semisimple (well, reductive, but with center contained in scalar matrices, and since $g_n$ consists of trace zero matrices, the center is trivial). | |
Sep 1, 2021 at 6:56 | comment | added | WunderNatur | @YCor I checked from 3 to 9. | |
Sep 1, 2021 at 6:36 | comment | added | YCor | Here's a roadmap to a solution. (a) compute the space $B_n$ of invariant quadratic (for $n$ odd) or alternating forms by $U_n$ and $L_n$. Then $B_n$ should be 1-dimensional and generated by a non-degenerate form (otherwise the conclusion fails), say $q$. So, the Lie subalgebra $g_n$ generated by $\{U_n,L_n\}$ preserves $q$, i.e., is contained in so(q), resp sp(q). (b) Show the latter inclusion is an equality, e.g., computing enough iterated brackets to obtain a good lower bound on the dimension of $g_n$? | |
Sep 1, 2021 at 6:31 | comment | added | YCor | You checked numerically with which values of $n$? | |
Sep 1, 2021 at 5:16 | comment | added | WunderNatur | @abx Thanks for the suggestion! I've made the change in the text. | |
Sep 1, 2021 at 5:15 | history | edited | WunderNatur | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Sep 1, 2021 at 5:13 | comment | added | abx | Oh, I see. Maybe you could say that $L_n$ and $U_n$ generate a Lie algebra isomorphic to $\mathfrak{so}(n,\mathbb{C})$ or $\mathfrak{sp}(n,\mathbb{C})$. | |
Sep 1, 2021 at 4:31 | comment | added | WunderNatur | @abx That should be part of the question. It should be some weird bilinear form which I could not determine. | |
Sep 1, 2021 at 4:29 | comment | added | abx | For which bilinear forms? For the standard quadratic form $\mathfrak{so}(n,\mathbb{C})$ is the space of skew-symmetric matrices, which does not contain $L_n$ or $U_n$. | |
Sep 1, 2021 at 1:39 | history | edited | WunderNatur | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Sep 1, 2021 at 0:57 | history | asked | WunderNatur | CC BY-SA 4.0 |