Timeline for Why are distributions "tempered"?
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| Sep 7, 2022 at 19:08 | comment | added | Tom Copeland | @OskarLimka, I addressed your observation in my answer--temperated is never used by native speakers of English since they are at least implicitly aware that temperate is not a verb. (Note the difference in pronunciation of moderate when used as a verb or as an adjective as well--typically the pronunciation in English changes with the meaning / usage of a word despite the spelling being the same.) | |
| Sep 7, 2022 at 15:27 | answer | added | Oskar Limka | timeline score: 0 | |
| Sep 7, 2022 at 15:13 | comment | added | Oskar Limka | While "(to) moderate" is a verb, and "moderate" is also an adjective, but "temperate" seems to only an adjective (I checked and could not find it as a verb). | |
| Jul 27, 2021 at 10:02 | answer | added | Tom Copeland | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jul 20, 2021 at 22:43 | comment | added | Terry Tao | I like to interpret the term in a slightly anthromorphic sense, namely that the distribution was "consciously" tempering its own urges to grow or oscillate exponentially fast at infinity. Perhaps this is not what Schwartz intended, but I find it a helpful imagery to have nonetheless. | |
| Jul 20, 2021 at 13:45 | comment | added | Alexandre Eremenko | @Tom Copeland: when I said "this is not a mathematical question", I did not mean anything negative, that is the question is "phisolophical" or about terminology. Otherwise I would say that "this site is not a proper place for this question...". Before asking my question I hesitated to place it here or in HSM. But I found a tag "terminology" here, and decided that it can be asked here. I think that some non-mathematical (in strict sense) questions still belong here, and this includes your and my questions. | |
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| Jul 20, 2021 at 13:35 | comment | added | Alexandre Eremenko | @Matt F.: the first line of your reference says that tempering "increases toughness", this is what I meant. | |
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| Jul 20, 2021 at 13:03 | comment | added | user44143 | You have the metallurgy backwards! The tempering makes steel less hard, and more ductile. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempering_(metallurgy) | |
| S Jul 20, 2021 at 12:56 | history | suggested | Peter Mortensen | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Fixed the question formation - see e.g. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4yWEt0OSpg&t=1m49s> (see also <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS5NfSzXfrI> (QUASM)). More representative link text. Word order.
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| Jul 20, 2021 at 2:28 | history | edited | David Roberts♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 19, 2021 at 18:16 | answer | added | Francois Ziegler | timeline score: 13 | |
| Jul 19, 2021 at 18:10 | comment | added | Tom Copeland | To echo your remark to an old question of mine (and some systemic silliness on MO), "This is not a mathematical question, really." (I wouldn't even begin to think of asking it at any kind of party either.) mathoverflow.net/questions/109127/… | |
| Jul 19, 2021 at 17:39 | comment | added | Alexander Woo | Mathematical terminology in English is full of slight mistranslations from French (and German). | |
| Jul 19, 2021 at 17:31 | comment | added | username | I agree with @Lucia Laurent Schwartz and Marie-Hélène Schwartz played the piano. | |
| Jul 19, 2021 at 17:19 | answer | added | Abdelmalek Abdesselam | timeline score: 7 | |
| Jul 19, 2021 at 16:41 | comment | added | Carlo Beenakker | aren't both forms derived from the Latin "temperata" ? | |
| Jul 19, 2021 at 16:33 | comment | added | Abdelmalek Abdesselam | @MichaelEngelhardt: precisely. But to me, a distribution, a thing in itself, is more like the weather than steel. | |
| Jul 19, 2021 at 16:27 | comment | added | paul garrett | (Native U.S. English speaker...) I'd agree with @MichaelEngelhardt, thinking of both "tempered" and "temperate" as just adjectival forms of the verb "to temper", after all. | |
| Jul 19, 2021 at 16:26 | answer | added | user44143 | timeline score: 14 | |
| Jul 19, 2021 at 16:20 | comment | added | Michael Engelhardt | Temperate feels more like a property of an entity with its own agency that happens to take on a moderate character. Tempered feels more like the property of an entity that is under outside control and has been influenced to take on a moderate character. Hence, the weather is temperate, but the steel, the clavier and the distribution are tempered. | |
| Jul 19, 2021 at 16:01 | comment | added | Abdelmalek Abdesselam | I use "temperate". If you google "tempered climate" you will be basically redirected to ask instead about "temperate climate". One of the most common uses of original French is as a qualifier for climate. | |
| Jul 19, 2021 at 15:38 | comment | added | Lucia | The well tempered clavier. Tempered sounds better in both cases to my ear; and in this case also one could imagine temperate as closer to "temperierte". | |
| Jul 19, 2021 at 15:09 | comment | added | Neal | I don't know the etymology of the mathematical adjective, but I have understood the name in the sense of "to soften or moderate", as in the 1st definition of the verb: merriam-webster.com/dictionary/temper | |
| Jul 19, 2021 at 15:07 | history | edited | Alexandre Eremenko | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 19, 2021 at 15:01 | history | asked | Alexandre Eremenko | CC BY-SA 4.0 |