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If we require that $\mathbb{E}\big[\dot W_t^2\big]=1$, then the function $(\omega,t)\mapsto W_t(\omega)$$(\omega,t)\mapsto \dot W_t(\omega)$ cannot even be measurable, with respect to the $\sigma$-algebra $\mathcal{B}\times \mathcal{F}$, where $\mathcal{B}$ is the Borel $\sigma$-algebra on $[0,\infty]$.

If we require that $\mathbb{E}\big[\dot W_t^2\big]=1$, then the function $(\omega,t)\mapsto W_t(\omega)$ cannot even be measurable, with respect to the $\sigma$-algebra $\mathcal{B}\times \mathcal{F}$, where $\mathcal{B}$ is the Borel $\sigma$-algebra on $[0,\infty]$.

If we require that $\mathbb{E}\big[\dot W_t^2\big]=1$, then the function $(\omega,t)\mapsto \dot W_t(\omega)$ cannot even be measurable, with respect to the $\sigma$-algebra $\mathcal{B}\times \mathcal{F}$, where $\mathcal{B}$ is the Borel $\sigma$-algebra on $[0,\infty]$.

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There are some authors that, namely H. Holden, B. Øksendal, and J. Ubøe T. Zhang in their book Stochastic Partial Differential Equations. A Modeling, White Noise Functional Approach, that define idealized 1-dimensional white noise as a generalized stochastic process"stochastic process" $\{\dot W_t\}_{t\geq 0}$ with the following properties:

As the commenters observed and mentioned this already, I have found that author B. Øksendal of the book Stochastic Differential Equations mentions that :

If we require that $\mathbb{E}\big[\dot W_t^2\big]=1$, then the function $(\omega,t)\mapsto W_t(\omega)$ cannot even be measurable, with respect to the $\sigma$-algebra $\mathcal{B}\times \mathcal{F}$, where $\mathcal{B}$ is the Borel $\sigma$-algebra on $[0,\infty]$.

  • Can we use the Shwartz space indexed or $\sigma$-algebra indexed white noise $W$, to construct idealizedotain the 'idealized white noisenoise' $\dot W$$\{\dot W_t\}$ indexed by time?
  • Is there another way to construct $\dot W$?

There are some authors that define idealized 1-dimensional white noise as a generalized stochastic process $\{\dot W_t\}_{t\geq 0}$ with the following properties:

  • Can we use white noise $W$ to construct idealized white noise $\dot W$?
  • Is there another way to construct $\dot W$?

There are some authors, namely H. Holden, B. Øksendal, and J. Ubøe T. Zhang in their book Stochastic Partial Differential Equations. A Modeling, White Noise Functional Approach, that define idealized 1-dimensional white noise as a "stochastic process" $\{\dot W_t\}_{t\geq 0}$ with the following properties:

As the commenters observed and mentioned this already, I have found that author B. Øksendal of the book Stochastic Differential Equations mentions that :

If we require that $\mathbb{E}\big[\dot W_t^2\big]=1$, then the function $(\omega,t)\mapsto W_t(\omega)$ cannot even be measurable, with respect to the $\sigma$-algebra $\mathcal{B}\times \mathcal{F}$, where $\mathcal{B}$ is the Borel $\sigma$-algebra on $[0,\infty]$.

  • Can we use the Shwartz space indexed or $\sigma$-algebra indexed white noise $W$, to otain the 'idealized white noise' $\{\dot W_t\}$ indexed by time?
  • Is there another way to construct $\dot W$?
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There are some authors that define idealized 1-dimensional white noise as a generalized stochastic process $\{\dot W_t\}_{t\geq 0}$ with the following properties:

  1. It is a mean zero Gaussian process.
  2. If $t_1\neq t_2$ then $\dot W_{t_1}$ and $\dot W_{t_2}$ are independent.
  3. It is a stationary process.

However, in several references I have read so far, I do not see an explicit construction of this process with index set $T=\mathbb{R}^+$. Rather, white noise is defined in the following two ways.


White noise indexed by a $\sigma$-algebra of a $\sigma$-finite measure space.

Let $(M,\mathcal{F},\sigma)$ be a $\sigma$-finite measure space and let $T$ be the collection of all sets in $\mathcal{F}$ of finite measure. White noise $\{W_A\}_{A\in T}$ is then defined as mean zero Gaussian process such that the following hold.

  • For each $A\in T$, $W_A$ is a normal random variable with zero mean and variance $\sigma(A)$.
  • If $A, B\in T$ and $A\cap B=\emptyset$ then $W_A$ and $W_B$ are independent.
  • For all $A,B\in T$ we have that $W(A\cup B)=W(A)+W(B)-W(A\cap B)$.

We use some version of the Bochner-Minlos theorem to get the existence of such a process. It has the property that for any $A,B\in T$ that $\text{Cov}(W_A,W_B)=\sigma(A\cap B)$. Note that if $M=\mathbb{R}$, $\mathcal{F}=\mathcal{B}$ is the Borel $\sigma$-algebra and $\sigma=\lambda$ is the Lebesgue measure then the process $$\{B_t\}_{t\geq 0}:=\left\{W\left((0,t]\right)\right\}_{t\geq 0}$$ is just regular Brownian motion.


White noise indexed by Shwartz functions.

Let $T:=\mathcal{S}(\mathbb{R})$ be the Shwartz space rapidly decreasing smooth functions. Let $\Omega:=\mathcal{S'}(\mathbb{R})$ be the space of tempered distributions equipped with the cylinder algebra $\mathscr{C}$. Another version of the Bochner-Minlos theorem states that there is a probability measure $\mathbb{P}$ on $(\Omega,\mathscr{C})$ such that $$\int_\Omega e^{i\langle \omega,\varphi\rangle} d\mathbb{P}(\omega)=\exp\left(-\frac{1}{2}\|\varphi\|_{L^2(\mathbb{R})}\right),\;\;\;\text{ for all }\varphi\in T.$$ White noise is then defined as $$W(t,\omega):=\langle \omega, \varphi \rangle,\;\;\;\text{ for all }(t,\omega)\in T\times \Omega. $$ Note that for $\omega\in\Omega$ and for any $\varphi\in L^2(\mathbb{R})$ one can define $\langle \omega,\varphi\rangle$ by using a sequence of functions $\{\varphi_n\}$ in $T$ that converge to $\varphi$. This allows to define the following: $$B_t(\omega):=\langle \omega,\mathbf{1}_{(0,t]}\rangle,\;\;\;\text{ for all }t\in\mathbb{R}^+. $$ Then $\{B_t\}$ is just one dimensional Brownian motion.


The Question:

As you can see, one can use white noise (defined in any of the above ways) to construct Brownian motion.

  • Can we use white noise $W$ to construct idealized white noise $\dot W$?
  • Is there another way to construct $\dot W$?

My idea: (can skip this part)

We can use the second construction of white noise above to define a process called the smoothed white noise process. It is defined as follows: For $\varphi\in L^2(\mathbb{R})$ and any $t\in \mathbb{R}$ let $$\varphi_t(x)=\varphi(t-x),\;\;\;\text{ for }x\in \mathbb{R}.$$$$\varphi_t(x):=\varphi(t-x),\;\;\;\text{ for }x\in \mathbb{R}.$$ Then define $$W_\varphi(t,\omega)=W(\varphi_t,\omega)=\langle \omega,\varphi_t\rangle,\;\;\;\text{ for all }(t,\omega)\in T\times\Omega. $$$$W_\varphi(t,\omega):=W(\varphi_t,\omega)=\langle \omega,\varphi_t\rangle,\;\;\;\text{ for all }(t,\omega)\in T\times\Omega. $$

$W_\varphi$ is then a zero mean stationary Gaussian process with constant variance equal to $\|\varphi\|_{L^2}$. It has the properties that for any $t_1\neq t_2$, if $\varphi_{t_1}$ and $\varphi_{t_2}$ have disjoint supports then $W(t_1,\cdot)$ and $W(t_2,\cdot)$ are independent.

So I was thinking, if we take a sequence $\{\varphi_n\}$ in $C_c^\infty(\mathbb{R})$ with shrinking supports, then would the sequence of smoothed white noises $\{W_{\varphi_n}\}$ converge (in a appropriate sense) to an idealized white noise $\dot W$?

There are some authors that define idealized 1-dimensional white noise as a generalized stochastic process $\{\dot W_t\}_{t\geq 0}$ with the following properties:

  1. It is a mean zero Gaussian process.
  2. If $t_1\neq t_2$ then $\dot W_{t_1}$ and $\dot W_{t_2}$ are independent.
  3. It is a stationary process.

However, in several references I have read so far, I do not see an explicit construction of this process with index set $T=\mathbb{R}^+$. Rather, white noise is defined in the following two ways.


White noise indexed by a $\sigma$-algebra of a $\sigma$-finite measure space.

Let $(M,\mathcal{F},\sigma)$ be a $\sigma$-finite measure space and let $T$ be the collection of all sets in $\mathcal{F}$ of finite measure. White noise $\{W_A\}_{A\in T}$ is then defined as mean zero Gaussian process such that the following hold.

  • For each $A\in T$, $W_A$ is a normal random variable with zero mean and variance $\sigma(A)$.
  • If $A, B\in T$ and $A\cap B=\emptyset$ then $W_A$ and $W_B$ are independent.
  • For all $A,B\in T$ we have that $W(A\cup B)=W(A)+W(B)-W(A\cap B)$.

We use some version of the Bochner-Minlos theorem to get the existence of such a process. It has the property that for any $A,B\in T$ that $\text{Cov}(W_A,W_B)=\sigma(A\cap B)$. Note that if $M=\mathbb{R}$, $\mathcal{F}=\mathcal{B}$ is the Borel $\sigma$-algebra and $\sigma=\lambda$ is the Lebesgue measure then the process $$\{B_t\}_{t\geq 0}:=\left\{W\left((0,t]\right)\right\}_{t\geq 0}$$ is just regular Brownian motion.


White noise indexed by Shwartz functions.

Let $T:=\mathcal{S}(\mathbb{R})$ be the Shwartz space rapidly decreasing smooth functions. Let $\Omega:=\mathcal{S'}(\mathbb{R})$ be the space of tempered distributions equipped with the cylinder algebra $\mathscr{C}$. Another version of the Bochner-Minlos theorem states that there is a probability measure $\mathbb{P}$ on $(\Omega,\mathscr{C})$ such that $$\int_\Omega e^{i\langle \omega,\varphi\rangle} d\mathbb{P}(\omega)=\exp\left(-\frac{1}{2}\|\varphi\|_{L^2(\mathbb{R})}\right),\;\;\;\text{ for all }\varphi\in T.$$ White noise is then defined as $$W(t,\omega):=\langle \omega, \varphi \rangle,\;\;\;\text{ for all }(t,\omega)\in T\times \Omega. $$ Note that for $\omega\in\Omega$ and for any $\varphi\in L^2(\mathbb{R})$ one can define $\langle \omega,\varphi\rangle$ by using a sequence of functions $\{\varphi_n\}$ in $T$ that converge to $\varphi$. This allows to define the following: $$B_t(\omega):=\langle \omega,\mathbf{1}_{(0,t]}\rangle,\;\;\;\text{ for all }t\in\mathbb{R}^+. $$ Then $\{B_t\}$ is just one dimensional Brownian motion.


The Question:

As you can see, one can use white noise (defined in any of the above ways) to construct Brownian motion.

  • Can we use white noise $W$ to construct idealized white noise $\dot W$?
  • Is there another way to construct $\dot W$?

My idea: (can skip this part)

We can use the second construction of white noise above to define a process called the smoothed white noise process. It is defined as follows: For $\varphi\in L^2(\mathbb{R})$ and any $t\in \mathbb{R}$ let $$\varphi_t(x)=\varphi(t-x),\;\;\;\text{ for }x\in \mathbb{R}.$$ Then define $$W_\varphi(t,\omega)=W(\varphi_t,\omega)=\langle \omega,\varphi_t\rangle,\;\;\;\text{ for all }(t,\omega)\in T\times\Omega. $$

$W_\varphi$ is then a zero mean stationary Gaussian process with constant variance equal to $\|\varphi\|_{L^2}$. It has the properties that for any $t_1\neq t_2$, if $\varphi_{t_1}$ and $\varphi_{t_2}$ have disjoint supports then $W(t_1,\cdot)$ and $W(t_2,\cdot)$ are independent.

So I was thinking, if we take a sequence $\{\varphi_n\}$ in $C_c^\infty(\mathbb{R})$ with shrinking supports, then would the sequence of smoothed white noises $\{W_{\varphi_n}\}$ converge (in a appropriate sense) to an idealized white noise $\dot W$?

There are some authors that define idealized 1-dimensional white noise as a generalized stochastic process $\{\dot W_t\}_{t\geq 0}$ with the following properties:

  1. It is a mean zero Gaussian process.
  2. If $t_1\neq t_2$ then $\dot W_{t_1}$ and $\dot W_{t_2}$ are independent.
  3. It is a stationary process.

However, in several references I have read so far, I do not see an explicit construction of this process with index set $T=\mathbb{R}^+$. Rather, white noise is defined in the following two ways.


White noise indexed by a $\sigma$-algebra of a $\sigma$-finite measure space.

Let $(M,\mathcal{F},\sigma)$ be a $\sigma$-finite measure space and let $T$ be the collection of all sets in $\mathcal{F}$ of finite measure. White noise $\{W_A\}_{A\in T}$ is then defined as mean zero Gaussian process such that the following hold.

  • For each $A\in T$, $W_A$ is a normal random variable with zero mean and variance $\sigma(A)$.
  • If $A, B\in T$ and $A\cap B=\emptyset$ then $W_A$ and $W_B$ are independent.
  • For all $A,B\in T$ we have that $W(A\cup B)=W(A)+W(B)-W(A\cap B)$.

We use some version of the Bochner-Minlos theorem to get the existence of such a process. It has the property that for any $A,B\in T$ that $\text{Cov}(W_A,W_B)=\sigma(A\cap B)$. Note that if $M=\mathbb{R}$, $\mathcal{F}=\mathcal{B}$ is the Borel $\sigma$-algebra and $\sigma=\lambda$ is the Lebesgue measure then the process $$\{B_t\}_{t\geq 0}:=\left\{W\left((0,t]\right)\right\}_{t\geq 0}$$ is just regular Brownian motion.


White noise indexed by Shwartz functions.

Let $T:=\mathcal{S}(\mathbb{R})$ be the Shwartz space rapidly decreasing smooth functions. Let $\Omega:=\mathcal{S'}(\mathbb{R})$ be the space of tempered distributions equipped with the cylinder algebra $\mathscr{C}$. Another version of the Bochner-Minlos theorem states that there is a probability measure $\mathbb{P}$ on $(\Omega,\mathscr{C})$ such that $$\int_\Omega e^{i\langle \omega,\varphi\rangle} d\mathbb{P}(\omega)=\exp\left(-\frac{1}{2}\|\varphi\|_{L^2(\mathbb{R})}\right),\;\;\;\text{ for all }\varphi\in T.$$ White noise is then defined as $$W(t,\omega):=\langle \omega, \varphi \rangle,\;\;\;\text{ for all }(t,\omega)\in T\times \Omega. $$ Note that for $\omega\in\Omega$ and for any $\varphi\in L^2(\mathbb{R})$ one can define $\langle \omega,\varphi\rangle$ by using a sequence of functions $\{\varphi_n\}$ in $T$ that converge to $\varphi$. This allows to define the following: $$B_t(\omega):=\langle \omega,\mathbf{1}_{(0,t]}\rangle,\;\;\;\text{ for all }t\in\mathbb{R}^+. $$ Then $\{B_t\}$ is just one dimensional Brownian motion.


The Question:

As you can see, one can use white noise (defined in any of the above ways) to construct Brownian motion.

  • Can we use white noise $W$ to construct idealized white noise $\dot W$?
  • Is there another way to construct $\dot W$?

My idea: (can skip this part)

We can use the second construction of white noise above to define a process called the smoothed white noise process. It is defined as follows: For $\varphi\in L^2(\mathbb{R})$ and any $t\in \mathbb{R}$ let $$\varphi_t(x):=\varphi(t-x),\;\;\;\text{ for }x\in \mathbb{R}.$$ Then define $$W_\varphi(t,\omega):=W(\varphi_t,\omega)=\langle \omega,\varphi_t\rangle,\;\;\;\text{ for all }(t,\omega)\in T\times\Omega. $$

$W_\varphi$ is then a zero mean stationary Gaussian process with constant variance equal to $\|\varphi\|_{L^2}$. It has the properties that for any $t_1\neq t_2$, if $\varphi_{t_1}$ and $\varphi_{t_2}$ have disjoint supports then $W(t_1,\cdot)$ and $W(t_2,\cdot)$ are independent.

So I was thinking, if we take a sequence $\{\varphi_n\}$ in $C_c^\infty(\mathbb{R})$ with shrinking supports, then would the sequence of smoothed white noises $\{W_{\varphi_n}\}$ converge (in a appropriate sense) to an idealized white noise $\dot W$?

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