Timeline for Wayback Machine for mathematics?
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| Oct 12, 2020 at 7:13 | comment | added | Ioanna | cgraph.inters.co is back online, sorry for seeing this late. Thanks @martin-sleziak for letting me know! Cgraph was not intended as a successor to the Howard-Rubin website, although Paul Howard is aware of it and some time ago there were plans to integrate it with a new CotAoC website Paul Howard was working on. | |
| Oct 10, 2020 at 21:51 | answer | added | David White | timeline score: 10 | |
| Oct 10, 2020 at 16:56 | comment | added | Nate Eldredge | @MartinSleziak: Thanks for the pointer. In fact, there is a comment saying that cgraph.inters.co was created by Ioanna M. Dimitriou as a successor to the Howard-Rubin website. That site is unfortunately also down (I don't know whether temporarily or permanently) but its source code, including the underlying data, is on github at github.com/ioannad/jeffrey, so that is reassuring as a permanent archive. | |
| Oct 10, 2020 at 16:31 | comment | added | Martin Sleziak | @NateEldredge Since you've mentioned Consequence of AC, here is a relevant post on Mathematics: What is current status of Consequences of the Axiom of Choice website? (Asaf Karagila mentioned some information in his answer - perhaps he might be able to update them if there is something new to say.) | |
| Oct 10, 2020 at 16:25 | history | edited | Timothy Chow |
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| Oct 9, 2020 at 13:57 | comment | added | Nate Eldredge | I wonder if the part about the CoAoC Project might do better in its own post, as people may have some more specific ideas about it. | |
| Oct 9, 2020 at 13:50 | answer | added | David White | timeline score: 17 | |
| Oct 9, 2020 at 13:47 | comment | added | Timothy Chow | @BorisBukh : Good point. My question is whether the Wayback Machine is sufficiently motivated to make the changes in question. They may be understaffed and may have higher priorities. Also, the general problem may be too hard; e.g., archiving a very large database may be something that the Wayback Machine doesn't want to do, so they may avoid doing so on principle. But maybe mathematical databases are all small enough that they can be completely archived. I'm not saying we have to write the archiving programs from scratch, just that we might want our own separate archive. | |
| Oct 9, 2020 at 13:42 | comment | added | darij grinberg | See academia.stackexchange.com/questions/155022/… Section 3 for how to reasonably use the Internet Archive at least in a low-tech way (I don't understand the high-tech ways myself). | |
| Oct 9, 2020 at 13:38 | comment | added | Boris Bukh | General archival tools should be fixed, rather than being fragmented into special-purpose tools. There is nothing really special about mathematics: for example, there are all kinds of databases that are accessed via forms, and the web is full of strangely-produced html pages. To me, this seems like a boat archiving question. | |
| Oct 9, 2020 at 13:37 | comment | added | Nate Eldredge | Internet Archive has an awful lot of curated archival projects beyond the automatic Wayback Machine. They might well be interested in supporting something like this. They have the storage and infrastructure, if some mathematician or group were to do the curation. I have some secondhand knowledge of a project along those lines (not in math) and might be able to find out more. | |
| Oct 9, 2020 at 13:34 | comment | added | Michael Renardy | Just a comment: A lot of web sites that may appear to be gone have not really disappeared, but have just been reorganized. That is, somebody changed the directory structure and the URLs with it. Universities seem to be particularly prone to doing that. It would be nice if somebody could get it through to the powers that be that hundreds of links become outdated every time they do that, but it is probably a hopeless quest. | |
| Oct 9, 2020 at 13:09 | comment | added | RBega2 | Lecture notes could of course be put on ArXiv, but I think people are a bit loathe to do that as it feels like it is being "published" and they may not be comfortable with that. Perhaps some sort of analog that is focused just on hosting content (and providing stable links) so instead of putting your notes on your personal webpage you upload them to this site and put the link on your page...would require some social and promotion acceptance (but ArXiv is pretty standard now so it might not be too hard to do). | |
| Oct 9, 2020 at 13:07 | comment | added | Sam Hopkins | This may already exist to some degree with Google scholar (scholar.google.com) which does a pretty good job archiving not only published articles, and things posted to the arXiv, but also unpublished notes that people put on their personal websites. I think it also caches these to some extent. | |
| Oct 9, 2020 at 13:01 | history | asked | Timothy Chow | CC BY-SA 4.0 |