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Oct 7, 2020 at 23:03 comment added Hailong Dao @DimaSustretov: I think the statement is that if $f:A\to B$ is a finite extension with $A$ a regular domain, then $f$ is flat if and only if $B$ is Cohen-Macaulay.
Oct 7, 2020 at 18:17 vote accept Dima Sustretov
Oct 7, 2020 at 18:17 comment added Dima Sustretov ah, I see now, thanks! What is the precise statament: being projective over regular implies CM, or being projective over the projective space is CM?
Oct 7, 2020 at 17:53 comment added Hailong Dao @DimaSustretov: ah, if $R/J$ is flat, then it is projective over $S$, since this is a finite map. Being projective over $S$ is exactly being Cohen-Macaulay. It's if and only if in this case.
Oct 7, 2020 at 17:47 comment added Dima Sustretov Sorry, I might be missing something evident, but I still do not understand how the contradiction arises. In your counterexample you construct for a regular $S$ an $S$-algebra $R/J$ which is not Cohen-Macaulay. Miracle flatness theorem from the reference to the Wikipedia says that if $S$ is regular (holds in our case) and $R/J$ is Cohen-Macaulay (doesn't hold in our case) then $R/J$ is flat over $S$ if the dimension equality holds (holds in our case). You claim that $R/J$ is not flat over $S$. Why?
Oct 7, 2020 at 16:23 comment added Hailong Dao @DimaSustretov: s.o.p will guarantee that $S=k[l_1,...,l_d]$ is a polynomial ring sitting inside $R/I$. This is basically Noether normalization. Cohen Macaulay is enough to guarantee flatness in this situation, see the theorem at the end of the wiki page I linked. (which is precisely why some people called it "miracle"!)
Oct 7, 2020 at 15:54 comment added Dima Sustretov Dear @Hailong, I am confused about the way you derive contradiction from the miracle flatness. Where do you use that $l_1, \ldots, l_d$ is a system of parameters of $R/I$? How do you get that if $R/I$ is flat over $S$ then it must be Cohen-Maucaulay? I thought that Cohen-Macaulayness of $R/I$ was only a necesarry condition to apply the miracle flatness criterion.
Oct 6, 2020 at 19:21 history answered Hailong Dao CC BY-SA 4.0