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Apr 12, 2020 at 9:03 comment added Kugutsu-o @Yemon Choi we are some thousands of years past archimedes, regardless, evidently now, one has to define angle either using arclengt or arch area of a circle, I just want to show that both are proportional to pi as given by some infinite series one calculates it with
Apr 12, 2020 at 8:23 comment added Kugutsu-o In the answer it's stated that trig functions are defined as matrices of the homomorphism. So instead of matrix algebras you use Clifford algebras, certain spinors as their elements..
Apr 11, 2020 at 13:47 comment added Yemon Choi @Ezio I fail to see what Clifford algebras have to do with the question you actually asked. It is true that you can define rotations and reflections without coordinates, Alexandre himself says that the group SO(2) comes from geometry. However, to do actual measurements you need a frame of reference, which seems to be the "coordinates" that you are so keen to avoid
Apr 11, 2020 at 13:43 comment added Yemon Choi @Ezio How do you propose to define the "length" of a circle? There is a reason why Archimedes used the principle of exhaustion
Apr 11, 2020 at 13:42 comment added Yemon Choi @ogogmad What Wildberger has and hasn't "shown" seems rather debatable, once one strips away all the ultrafinitist polemic
Apr 10, 2020 at 23:52 history edited Alexandre Eremenko CC BY-SA 4.0
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Apr 10, 2020 at 15:36 comment added Kugutsu-o @Alexandre Eremenko Also there are ways to have a rotation group representation without matrices or hyper complex numbers. Every rotation is a composition of two reflections, and in some systems, variations of Clifford algebra where this ratation groups are equivalent to spinors in a completely coordinate free way.
Apr 10, 2020 at 15:31 comment added Kugutsu-o I agree that distinction is blurry, but does that mean that in the theory of pure geometry the ratio of circle length and radius is an undecidable question?
Apr 10, 2020 at 8:45 comment added wlad Norman Wildberger has shown that trigonometry can be developed without using analysis, albeit by avoiding the notion of an angle
Apr 10, 2020 at 0:58 history edited kodlu CC BY-SA 4.0
Spelling and grammar. Great answer!
Apr 9, 2020 at 23:31 history edited Alexandre Eremenko CC BY-SA 4.0
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Apr 9, 2020 at 12:08 history answered Alexandre Eremenko CC BY-SA 4.0