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Apr 13, 2020 at 22:10 comment added Wlod AA @user76284, you're too kind, thank you!
Apr 13, 2020 at 18:53 vote accept user76284
Apr 13, 2020 at 18:53 comment added user76284 This is slightly longer than the one in my question but I'll accept it :)
S Mar 25, 2020 at 13:56 history suggested user76284 CC BY-SA 4.0
Moved $\exists a$ inside the conjunct
Mar 25, 2020 at 0:05 comment added Wlod AA @user76284, u'r right, now the distance between the symbols to be associated is shorter (local formula understanding is easier than global). I don't see the edit yet, I hope that it will show up soon when admins have time to look at it.
Mar 24, 2020 at 23:40 comment added user76284 I moved $\exists a$ inside the conjunct. This doesn't change the length of the formula but it does make it a bit clearer, I think.
Mar 24, 2020 at 23:40 review Suggested edits
S Mar 25, 2020 at 13:56
Mar 24, 2020 at 23:36 comment added Wlod AA @user76284, oh, yes! That's why I was/am uneasy about this game, I don't know the formal rules. (On the other hand, this kind of optimizing formulas are attractive to me anyway).
Mar 24, 2020 at 23:31 comment added user76284 Wouldn't the resulting formula be longer in the internal language, since you have to say $\exists a (a \in b \land \neg \exists c (c \in a))$ rather than just $\exists a (a \in b)$?
Mar 24, 2020 at 23:27 comment added Wlod AA @user76284, first of all, thank you for your edit. I could remove $\ \exists_a\ $ and replace $\ a\in b\ $ by $\ \emptyset\in b.\ $ In general, in the context of the OP Question (nothing wrong about it!) I felt uncomfortable and extra defensive about my formula. I am not a logician hence I don't know the customs, habits, ... to be obeyed in a thread as this.
Mar 24, 2020 at 23:20 comment added user76284 Can't $\exists a$ be moved inside to capture just $a \in b$?
Mar 24, 2020 at 23:19 comment added user76284 You mean in the external language?
Mar 24, 2020 at 7:04 comment added Wlod AA If $\ \emptyset\ $ is legal then I can save 2 characters.
S Mar 24, 2020 at 3:23 history suggested user76284 CC BY-SA 4.0
Abbreviation
Mar 24, 2020 at 0:29 review Suggested edits
S Mar 24, 2020 at 3:23
Mar 22, 2020 at 21:24 comment added Wlod AA @EmilJeřábek, thank you. (I was fighting non-existing logical dragons).
Mar 22, 2020 at 11:06 history edited Emil Jeřábek CC BY-SA 4.0
Further simplified, using extensionality
Mar 22, 2020 at 10:50 history edited Emil Jeřábek CC BY-SA 4.0
Removed needless S's (elements of sets are sets by heredity). Fixed formatting.
Mar 20, 2020 at 6:51 history edited Wlod AA CC BY-SA 4.0
statement statement stated
Mar 20, 2020 at 6:13 history answered Wlod AA CC BY-SA 4.0