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Mar 4, 2020 at 14:21 comment added Todd Eisworth Yes. And once you have a long strong chain, it will still exist in further ccc extensions, so you can achieve further configurations, say by adding a small dominating family.
Mar 4, 2020 at 5:37 comment added Jing Zhang It seems that the forcing to add such an $\omega_2$ strong chain is strongly proper, so at least we can exclude invariants like $\mathfrak{b}$ (and many others) since no strongly proper forcing can add a dominating real (any real lives in a Cohen sub-extension but Cohen forcing can't add a dominating real).
Mar 3, 2020 at 21:00 comment added Todd Eisworth I don't the answer to the $\omega_3$ question. What I'm really curious about is if the existence of the strong $\omega_2$-chain implies that some cardinal characteristics must be greater than $\omega_1$ (we know that $\mathfrak{c}>\omega_1$, for example).
Mar 3, 2020 at 16:09 comment added Jing Zhang so Chang's Conjecture keeps this $\kappa$ small ($\aleph_1$) and CC is c.c.c indestructible so basically this $\kappa$ cannot bound any cardinal invariant. For the other direction, is it known if it is possible to have $\kappa\geq \omega_3$?
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