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ClearerIt might be clearer to say that you have a set of points and $t$ blocks each of size $s$ (I suppose no two totally identical). What can be said about the range of possible pairs $(a,b)$ where $a$ is the size of the union of the blocks and $b$ is the number of point pairs which are in at least one block? I’ll generalize that to

What arecan be said about the range of possible quadruples $(s,t,a,b)?$$(s,t,a,b)$ where $a$ is the size of the union of the blocks and $b$ is the number of point pairs which are in at least one block? Specifically, fix one or more and ask what the range is for the other(s).

I didn’t name the number of points since you don’t use it. I’m not sure what you mean by $k(n).$

I’ll look at this question since you mention it : Certainly $t \leq \binom{a}s.$ When there is equality, also $b = \binom{a}2.$ That is clearly the largest $b$ can be given$b \leq \binom{a}2.$

Q: What is the range on $t$ be given that $a.$$b = \binom{a}2?$

How small could $t$ be given that $b = \binom{a}2?$

It turns out that the answer is

Certainly$$\frac{a(a-1)}{s(s-1)} \leq t \leq \binom{a}{s}=\frac{a}{s}\frac{a-1}{s-1}\frac{a-2}{s-2}\cdots\frac{a-s+1}{1}$$

$$t \geq \frac{\binom{a}2}{\binom{s}2}=\frac{a(a-1)}{s(s-1)}$$ With equality The lower bound occurs in the event that every pair is in exactly one block (which of course requires $t$$\frac{a(a-1)}{s(s-1)}$ to be an integer.) One also sees that the number of blocks containing a given point is $$\frac{a-1}{s-1}$$ which must also be an integer.

Then we have what is called a Balanced incompleteIncomplete Block Design BIBD with parameters $(v,k,\lambda)=(a,s,1)$ Also called a $2-(a,s)$ Steiner System. It turns out that, for fixed $s,$ this is possible provided $a$ is large enough and the two integrality conditions are met.

A BIBD$(a,3,1)$ exists for $a \equiv1,3 \bmod 6.$ One of these$-(a,3,1)$ is also called a Steiner Triple System. and exists for $a \equiv 1,3 \bmod 6.$

Projective planes are BIBD$(q^2+q+1,q+1,1)$and$-(q^2+q+1,q+1,1)$ and Affine planes are $BIBD(q^2,q,1)$$BIBD-(q^2,q,1)$

So this was a matter of fixing $a$ and $s$, letting $b=\binom{a}{2}$ and looking at the possible sizes of $t.$


A question which might be easy, but isn't totally immediateobvious to me is:

Given $s,t$, how small can $a$ and/or $b$ be?

Given $s,t$, how small can $a$ and/or $b$ be?

It might , in fact be tricky, I didn't think about it too much. The cases

If $t$ small$t=2$ then we can have $a=s+1$ in which case $b=\binom{s}2+s-1=\frac{(s+2)(s-1)}2$ which are both minimums.

For $3 \le t \le s+1$ we can have $a=s+1$ and $s$ large might be different than$b=\binom{s+1}2.$

The minimum $s$ large$a$ is $a=s+c$ with $c$ minimal subject to $\binom{s+c}s \ge t$ and then one has $t$ small.$\binom{s+c-1}2 \lt b \le \binom{s+c}2.$

Clearer to say that you have a set of points and $t$ blocks each of size $s$ (I suppose no two totally identical). What can be said about the range of possible pairs $(a,b)$ where $a$ is the size of the union of the blocks and $b$ is the number of point pairs which are in at least one block? I’ll generalize that to

What are the possible quadruples $(s,t,a,b)?$ Specifically, fix one or more and ask what the range is for the other(s).

I didn’t name the number of points since you don’t use it. I’m not sure what you mean by $k(n).$

I’ll look at this question since you mention it : Certainly $t \leq \binom{a}s.$ When there is equality, also $b = \binom{a}2.$ That is clearly the largest $b$ can be given $a.$

How small could $t$ be given that $b = \binom{a}2?$

Certainly

$$t \geq \frac{\binom{a}2}{\binom{s}2}=\frac{a(a-1)}{s(s-1)}$$ With equality in the event that every pair is in exactly one block (which of course requires $t$ to be an integer.) One also sees that the number of blocks containing a given point is $$\frac{a-1}{s-1}$$ which must also be an integer.

Then we have what is called a Balanced incomplete Block Design BIBD with parameters $(v,k,\lambda)=(a,s,1)$ It turns out that, for fixed $s,$ this is possible provided $a$ is large enough and the two integrality conditions are met.

A BIBD$(a,3,1)$ exists for $a \equiv1,3 \bmod 6.$ One of these is also called a Steiner Triple System. Projective planes are BIBD$(q^2+q+1,q+1,1)$and Affine planes are $BIBD(q^2,q,1)$

So this was a matter of fixing $a$ and $s$, letting $b=\binom{a}{2}$ and looking at the possible sizes of $t.$


A question which might be easy, but isn't totally immediate is

Given $s,t$, how small can $a$ and/or $b$ be?

It might , in fact be tricky, I didn't think about it too much. The cases $t$ small and $s$ large might be different than $s$ large and $t$ small.

It might be clearer to say that you have a set of points and $t$ blocks each of size $s$ (I suppose no two totally identical).

What can be said about the range of possible quadruples $(s,t,a,b)$ where $a$ is the size of the union of the blocks and $b$ is the number of point pairs which are in at least one block? Specifically, fix one or more and ask what the range is for the other(s).

I didn’t name the number of points since you don’t use it. I’m not sure what you mean by $k(n).$

I’ll look at this question since you mention it : Certainly $b \leq \binom{a}2.$

Q: What is the range on $t$ be given that $b = \binom{a}2?$

It turns out that the answer is

$$\frac{a(a-1)}{s(s-1)} \leq t \leq \binom{a}{s}=\frac{a}{s}\frac{a-1}{s-1}\frac{a-2}{s-2}\cdots\frac{a-s+1}{1}$$

The lower bound occurs in the event that every pair is in exactly one block (which of course requires $\frac{a(a-1)}{s(s-1)}$ to be an integer.) One also sees that the number of blocks containing a given point is $$\frac{a-1}{s-1}$$ which must also be an integer.

Then we have what is called a Balanced Incomplete Block Design BIBD with parameters $(v,k,\lambda)=(a,s,1)$ Also called a $2-(a,s)$ Steiner System. It turns out that, for fixed $s,$ this is possible provided $a$ is large enough and the two integrality conditions are met.

A BIBD$-(a,3,1)$ is called a Steiner Triple System and exists for $a \equiv 1,3 \bmod 6.$

Projective planes are BIBD$-(q^2+q+1,q+1,1)$ and Affine planes are $BIBD-(q^2,q,1)$

So this was a matter of fixing $a$ and $s$, letting $b=\binom{a}{2}$ and looking at the possible sizes of $t.$


A question which might be easy, but isn't obvious to me is:

Given $s,t$, how small can $a$ and/or $b$ be?

It might , in fact be tricky, I didn't think about it too much.

If $t=2$ then we can have $a=s+1$ in which case $b=\binom{s}2+s-1=\frac{(s+2)(s-1)}2$ which are both minimums.

For $3 \le t \le s+1$ we can have $a=s+1$ and $b=\binom{s+1}2.$

The minimum $a$ is $a=s+c$ with $c$ minimal subject to $\binom{s+c}s \ge t$ and then one has $\binom{s+c-1}2 \lt b \le \binom{s+c}2.$

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Clearer to say that you have a set of points and $s$$t$ blocks each of size $t$$s$ (I suppose no two totally identical). What can be said about the range of possible pairs $(a,b)$ where $a$ is the size of the union of the blocks and $b$ is the number of point pairs which are in at least one block? I’ll generalize that to

What are the possible quadruples $(s,t,a,b)?$ Specifically, fix one or more and ask what the range is for the other(s).

I didn’t name the number of points since you don’t use it. I’m not sure what you mean by $k(n).$

I’ll look at this question since you mention it : Certainly $s \leq \binom{a}t.$$t \leq \binom{a}s.$ When there is equality, also $b = \binom{a}2.$ That is clearly the largest $b$ can be. given $a.$

How small could $s$$t$ be given that $b \eq \binom{a}2?$$b = \binom{a}2?$

Certainly

$s \geq \frac{\binom{a}2}{\binom{t}2}} $$$t \geq \frac{\binom{a}2}{\binom{s}2}=\frac{a(a-1)}{s(s-1)}$$ With equality in the event that every pair is in exactly one block (which of course requires $s$$t$ to be an integer.) One also sees that the number of blocks containing a given point is $$\frac{a-1}{s-1}$$ which must also be an integer.

Then we have what is called a Balanced incomplete Block Design BIBD with parameters $(v,k,\lambda)=(a,t,1)$$(v,k,\lambda)=(a,s,1)$ It turns out that, for fixed $t,$$s,$ this is possible provided $a$ is large enough and the expressiontwo integrality conditions are met.

A BIBD$(a,3,1)$ exists for $s$$a \equiv1,3 \bmod 6.$ One of these is an integeralso called a Steiner Triple System. Projective planes are BIBD$(q^2+q+1,q+1,1)$and Affine planes are $BIBD(q^2,q,1)$

———So this was a matter of fixing $a$ and $s$, letting $b=\binom{a}{2}$ and looking at the possible sizes of $t.$


A question which might be easy, but isn't totally immediate is

Given $s,t$, how small can $a$ and/or $b$ be?

It might , in fact be tricky, I didn't think about it too much. The cases $t$ small and $s$ large might be different than $s$ large and $t$ small.

Clearer to say that you have a set of points and $s$ blocks each of size $t$ (I suppose no two totally identical). What can be said about the range of possible pairs $(a,b)$ where $a$ is the size of the union of the blocks and $b$ is the number of point pairs which are in at least one block? I’ll generalize that to

What are the possible quadruples $(s,t,a,b)?$

I didn’t name the number of points since you don’t use it. I’m not sure what you mean by $k(n).$

I’ll look at this question since you mention it : Certainly $s \leq \binom{a}t.$ When there is equality, also $b = \binom{a}2.$ That is clearly the largest $b$ can be.

How small could $s$ be given that $b \eq \binom{a}2?$

Certainly

$s \geq \frac{\binom{a}2}{\binom{t}2}} $ With equality in the event that every pair is in exactly one block (which of course requires $s$ to be an integer.)

Then we have what is called a Balanced incomplete Block Design BIBD with parameters $(v,k,\lambda)=(a,t,1)$ It turns out that, for fixed $t,$ this is possible provided $a$ is large enough and the expression for $s$ is an integer.

———

Clearer to say that you have a set of points and $t$ blocks each of size $s$ (I suppose no two totally identical). What can be said about the range of possible pairs $(a,b)$ where $a$ is the size of the union of the blocks and $b$ is the number of point pairs which are in at least one block? I’ll generalize that to

What are the possible quadruples $(s,t,a,b)?$ Specifically, fix one or more and ask what the range is for the other(s).

I didn’t name the number of points since you don’t use it. I’m not sure what you mean by $k(n).$

I’ll look at this question since you mention it : Certainly $t \leq \binom{a}s.$ When there is equality, also $b = \binom{a}2.$ That is clearly the largest $b$ can be given $a.$

How small could $t$ be given that $b = \binom{a}2?$

Certainly

$$t \geq \frac{\binom{a}2}{\binom{s}2}=\frac{a(a-1)}{s(s-1)}$$ With equality in the event that every pair is in exactly one block (which of course requires $t$ to be an integer.) One also sees that the number of blocks containing a given point is $$\frac{a-1}{s-1}$$ which must also be an integer.

Then we have what is called a Balanced incomplete Block Design BIBD with parameters $(v,k,\lambda)=(a,s,1)$ It turns out that, for fixed $s,$ this is possible provided $a$ is large enough and the two integrality conditions are met.

A BIBD$(a,3,1)$ exists for $a \equiv1,3 \bmod 6.$ One of these is also called a Steiner Triple System. Projective planes are BIBD$(q^2+q+1,q+1,1)$and Affine planes are $BIBD(q^2,q,1)$

So this was a matter of fixing $a$ and $s$, letting $b=\binom{a}{2}$ and looking at the possible sizes of $t.$


A question which might be easy, but isn't totally immediate is

Given $s,t$, how small can $a$ and/or $b$ be?

It might , in fact be tricky, I didn't think about it too much. The cases $t$ small and $s$ large might be different than $s$ large and $t$ small.

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Clearer to say that you have a set of points and $s$ blocks each of size $t$ (I suppose no two totally identical). What can be said about the range of possible pairs $(a,b)$ where $a$ is the size of the union of the blocks and $b$ is the number of point pairs which are in at least one block? I’ll generalize that to

What are the possible quadruples $(s,t,a,b)?$

I didn’t name the number of points since you don’t use it. I’m not sure what you mean by $k(n).$

I’ll look at this question since you mention it : Certainly $s \leq \binom{a}t.$ When there is equality, also $b = \binom{a}2.$ That is clearly the largest $b$ can be.

How small could $s$ be given that $b \eq \binom{a}2?$

Certainly

$s \geq \frac{\binom{a}2}{\binom{t}2}} $ With equality in the event that every pair is in exactly one block (which of course requires $s$ to be an integer.)

Then we have what is called a Balanced incomplete Block Design BIBD with parameters $(v,k,\lambda)=(a,t,1)$ It turns out that, for fixed $t,$ this is possible provided $a$ is large enough and the expression for $s$ is an integer.

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