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Mar 21, 2019 at 12:57 answer added HJRW timeline score: 3
Nov 4, 2018 at 14:51 history edited Dylan Thurston CC BY-SA 4.0
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Nov 4, 2018 at 3:16 comment added Dylan Thurston @HJRW, indeed I missed those! There are several gluings that give that surface.
Nov 3, 2018 at 7:50 comment added HJRW Wait, what about the surface of Euler characteristic -1? Shouldn’t that be on your list?
Nov 2, 2018 at 19:25 comment added Dylan Thurston My motivation was very simple: I wanted an example for my class on Metric Geometry. But then I was surprised I hadn't seen these examples.
Nov 2, 2018 at 6:24 history edited ThiKu CC BY-SA 4.0
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Nov 2, 2018 at 4:22 comment added Victor Protsak @Ian Agol: Right, and your descriptions of these groups as free-by-cyclic groups yield a lot of extra information. I am not sure what Dylan's motivations were, but I thought of algorithmically distinguishing these groups. Then it may be useful to have a simple criterion based on residual properties (or quotients).
Nov 1, 2018 at 14:10 comment added Ian Agol @VictorProtsak my answer shows that the kernels of the maps to $\mathbb{Z}$ have distinct ranks, so the groups are different.
Nov 1, 2018 at 13:29 vote accept Dylan Thurston
Nov 1, 2018 at 6:08 comment added Victor Protsak If you look at the standard single-relator presentations of the last two groups, the total powers of $a,b$ in the relator are $(1,1)$ and $(1,3) $. While these groups have the same abelianization, it seems plausible that they can be distinguished by their homomorphisms into the finite Heisenberg group over $\mathbb{F}_3$.This should be easily checkable by a computer algebra system.
Nov 1, 2018 at 5:46 answer added Ian Agol timeline score: 17
Nov 1, 2018 at 4:44 comment added Ian Agol I'm certain that one of the last two must be a spine of the Gieseking manifold. See: arxiv.org/abs/1008.1468 In any case, they should be 1-relator small-cancellation groups, so ought to be known at least to group theorists.
Nov 1, 2018 at 2:25 comment added Dylan Thurston To follow up on the "not a surface" comment, the link of the vertex is a tetrahedron, with edge lengths of 2pi/3. Thus the shortest cycle is of length 2pi, so the link is CAT(1) and the space is locally CAT(0).
Nov 1, 2018 at 1:52 comment added Lee Mosher You just glue them. It's not a surface.
Oct 31, 2018 at 23:12 comment added Steven Stadnicki Maybe I'm missing something obvious here, but how do you glue three edges together?
Oct 31, 2018 at 19:41 history asked Dylan Thurston CC BY-SA 4.0