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Jun 5, 2018 at 11:53 history edited Carlo Beenakker CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 5, 2018 at 11:44 comment added Carlo Beenakker @fedja --- "how do you count those big sizes?" --- I found generating functions for $C_{2p,2q}$ with $p=1,2$ --- no idea whether these are known for larger $p$.
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Jun 4, 2018 at 15:54 comment added j.c. One reference for the connection between the coefficients of the graph polynomial and Eulerian orientations is Lemma 2.2 of "Colorings and orientations of graphs" by Alon and Tarsi cs.tau.ac.il/~nogaa/PDFS/chrom3.pdf . In particular, your guess holds true.
Jun 4, 2018 at 14:58 comment added fedja @CarloBeenakker "for m and n both even equal the number of Eulerian orientations" That was exectly my starting point and then I got confused with cancellations in the odd cases a bit. But how do you count those for big sizes? OEIS gives no hint whatsoever.
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Jun 4, 2018 at 13:18 comment added fedja @CarloBeenakker Found it. I missed some more cancellations. Indeed, $4\cdot 3^n$ it is. Looks like it is time to post now ;-)
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Jun 4, 2018 at 12:31 comment added fedja @CarloBeenakker OK, looking for ar error then. :)
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Jun 4, 2018 at 10:24 comment added Carlo Beenakker @fedja -- using Mathematica, I find that the $3\times 6$ coefficient is 108.
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Jun 4, 2018 at 1:05 comment added fedja @Jacob.Z.Lee And yes, I agree that it is $0$ for odds. My stupidity, sorry for that. So, $2^{2n+1}+4$ for evens up to the sign.
Jun 4, 2018 at 1:00 comment added fedja @Jacob.Z.Lee Then we diverge on $3\times 6$ for the first time. I predict $\pm 132$ and you $108$. I guess we should ask the computer who is right and if it is I, I'll post the argument, but if it is you, I'll look for a mistake in my reasoning. :-). I don't have any fancy CAS on my old laptop. Do you?
Jun 4, 2018 at 0:55 comment added Jacob.Z.Lee @fedja In general, Let $G$ be the cartesian product graph $C_3\times C_{2n}$ and $P_G(x_1,x_2,\cdots, x_{6n})$ be the graph polynomial of $G$. I guess the coefficient of the term $x_1^2x_2^2\cdots x_{6n}^2$ in the expansion of the polynomial $P_G(x_1,x_2,\cdots, x_{6n})$ is $(-1)^{n-1} 3^{n}\times 4 $ for $ 3\times 2n$, the answer is $0$ for $3\times (2n-1)$. I know the pattern, but I can't prove its correctness.
Jun 4, 2018 at 0:49 comment added fedja @Jacob.Z.Lee You are probably right for $3$ by odd (I missed the cancellations there). However for $3\times 4$ your formula gives $-12$, which is certainly wrong.
Jun 4, 2018 at 0:48 comment added Jacob.Z.Lee @fedja In general, Let $G$ be the cartesian product graph $C_3\times C_{2n}$ and $P_G(x_1,x_2,\cdots, x_{6n})$ be the graph polynomial of $G$. I guess the coefficient of the term $x_1^2x_2^2\cdots x_{6n}^2$ is $(-1)^{n-1} 3^{n}\times 4 $ for $ 3\times 2n$, the answer is $0$ for $3\times (2n-1)$. I know the pattern, but I can't prove its correctness.
Jun 3, 2018 at 23:17 comment added fedja @Jacob.Z.Lee Is there any pattern I believe that for $3\times m$ the answer is $2^{m+1}+4(-1)^m$ (again, up to the sign, which is enumeration dependent). The general $n\times m$ is still a mystery for me.
Jun 3, 2018 at 22:38 comment added Jacob.Z.Lee @fedja Yes, the case will be more complicated when there are more vertices and edges.
Jun 3, 2018 at 22:33 comment added Jacob.Z.Lee @Carlo Beenakker right answer. But I prefer to know how to calculate the answer out by hand. Is there any pattern in coefficient of the term in the expansion of the polynomial?
Jun 3, 2018 at 21:42 comment added fedja Indeed, $36$ it is (plus or minus depends on how you enumerate the vertices). Is Mathematica able to do the $3\times 40$ tesselation? (the human answer is plus or minus $2^{41}+4$ but humans are error-prone, you know...)
Jun 3, 2018 at 19:34 history answered Carlo Beenakker CC BY-SA 4.0