Timeline for Gödel's speed-up from constructive to classical logic?
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Feb 9, 2021 at 14:18 | comment | added | Emil Jeřábek | My comment above should read “If the statement of Roth’s theorem were $\Pi_2$, ...”. In fact, as far as I can see, Roth’s theorem is only $\Pi_3$, now that I think about it. | |
Feb 9, 2021 at 10:33 | comment | added | Emil Jeřábek | Since the statement of Roth’s theorem is $\Pi_2$, not only it automatically has a constructive proof once it has a classical proof, also the constructive proof is not much longer than the classical one. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedman_translation. | |
Mar 1, 2018 at 12:57 | comment | added | Alex Gavrilov | You are right. I am convinced that the Schanuel conjecture can be proved in constructive logic, but this is just my personal opinion. Of course, such a proof ought to be pretty long. As for the Roth's theorem, I have no idea. It is conceivable that it cannot be proved in constructive second order arithmetic, for example. | |
Mar 1, 2018 at 12:43 | comment | added | Joel David Hamkins | These are interesting examples, but the OP had requested examples where the statement is in fact provable both constructively and classically, but where the constructive proof was necessarily much longer. Do you have any reason to think that your examples are constructively provable, but do not have short constructive proofs? | |
Mar 1, 2018 at 12:27 | history | edited | Alex Gavrilov | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Mar 1, 2018 at 11:59 | comment | added | Todd Trimble | Along the same lines, we currently don't know that $e + \pi$ is transcendental, nor do we know that $e\pi$ is transcendental. But we know one of them must be, because if both were algebraic, then the roots of $x^2 - (e + \pi)x + e\pi$ would also be algebraic, contrary to what we know about $e$ and $\pi$. | |
Mar 1, 2018 at 11:40 | history | answered | Alex Gavrilov | CC BY-SA 3.0 |