Timeline for The letter $\wp$; Name & origin?
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| Nov 16 at 8:08 | comment | added | Manfred Weis | @P.R. that had already been noticed in the comments of Gerard Duchamp that was Kurrent and not Sütterlin | |
| Nov 15 at 18:14 | comment | added | P.R. | I am aware that all these comments are very old, but I just want to add that wikipedia puts the invention of Sütterlin to 1911. So it was invented after the first publications mentioned in other answers above. (wikipedia says now: "Graphic artist Ludwig Sütterlin was commissioned by the Prussian Ministry of Science, Art and Culture (Preußisches Ministerium für Wissenschaft, Kunst und Volksbildung) to create a modern handwriting script in 1911.") | |
| Aug 17, 2017 at 16:43 | comment | added | Duchamp Gérard H. E. | Let us continue this discussion in chat. | |
| Aug 17, 2017 at 8:06 | comment | added | Manfred Weis | @DuchampGérardH.E. if your father also changed the order of the loops, then probably also for reasons of speed or because the official way is too awkward. A similar effect can be observed when people try to write the '&' or the '@' sign; I've seen the most adventurous creations. | |
| Aug 17, 2017 at 8:01 | comment | added | Duchamp Gérard H. E. | @ManfredWeis ... and the ligature with the following letter was crossing the upper loop. | |
| Aug 17, 2017 at 7:59 | comment | added | Duchamp Gérard H. E. | @ManfredWeis Thank you. In fact my father was a perfect German speaker and writer but, maybe, his gothic handwriting, coming from family tradition, was mixed. It looked like Weierstrass p only when the letter was isolated, when not (ligature with the preceding letter) it showed an upgoing ligature indicating that he was writing the bottom loop first. | |
| Aug 17, 2017 at 6:38 | comment | added | Manfred Weis | Or someone not familiar with Kurrent mixed up the order of the loops, thus 'inventing' the $\wp$ | |
| Aug 17, 2017 at 6:30 | comment | added | Manfred Weis | If one looks at a Kurrent alphabet from 1865, one sees, that the small letter $p$ is written with two loops, the top one first and then the bottom one. It might be that Weierstrass switched that order (maybe because that allowed faster writing). | |
| Aug 17, 2017 at 6:20 | comment | added | Manfred Weis | @DuchampGérardH.E. in Kurrent writing of the capital letter P starts from upper left and there is no inflection point before entering the loop; the capital letter K however starts from the right and has an inflection point before the loop. This isn't meant to rule out the explanation that the origin of $\wp$ is Kurrent - it only is meant to indicate that questions still remain. What is desparately missing is a handwritten text from Weierstrass himself. | |
| Aug 17, 2017 at 3:15 | comment | added | Duchamp Gérard H. E. | @teikakazura No, not Sütterlin but Kurrent (I saw it in my father's handwriting when a child). | |
| Aug 15, 2017 at 4:25 | comment | added | teika kazura | Though similarity is a subjective matter, I'm afraid the $\wp$ letter doesn't look to me like Sütterlin. However I found an example of Sütterlin-like lowercase p (but published in Paris in French!) Search for "Sütterlin" in my edited question. | |
| S Aug 7, 2017 at 14:37 | history | edited | David Handelman | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
lapsus corrected; Fraktur; comma after i.e.; italicized letter p; no comma after be
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| S Aug 7, 2017 at 14:37 | history | suggested | Jean Duchon | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
lapsus corrected
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| Aug 7, 2017 at 12:16 | history | answered | Manfred Weis | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
