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Jun 26, 2017 at 9:22 comment added Dattier A bout the first conjecture, it the same case for $G_n(X)=\sum \limits_{k=0}^{n} X^k$ when n+1 is prime, but there are a closed formula.
Jun 26, 2017 at 5:54 comment added Noam D. Elkies Looking closer at your plot also suggests the zeros of norm $.96064+$ in the right half-plane near $0.5309172 \pm 0.8005987i$.
Jun 26, 2017 at 4:13 comment added Igor Rivin @NoamD.Elkies Yes, I was mystified by your triple product commentary because of the two-sided vs one-sided issue, but am glad that I was not confused as much as I might have been. As for the pair of zeros, true.
Jun 26, 2017 at 3:33 comment added Noam D. Elkies The "other side" is elementary as Will Sawin noted. Unfortunately the product formula I had in mind is for the two-sided sum $\sum_{i=-\infty}^\infty X^{i^2} = 2 A_\infty(X) - 1$. The sum $A_\infty(X)$ itself does have at least the conjugate pair of zeros in $|X|<1$ suggested by your plot, near $-0.6701129 \pm .4274072i$ (you can get many more digits using Newton's method), and might have infinitely many more.
Jun 26, 2017 at 2:09 comment added Igor Rivin @NoamD.Elkies Presumably, if the product formula whereof you speak actually gives a lower bound on the infinite series in the disk $|z| < r < 1,$ it will imply at least a one sided clustering, and then something similar after $z\to 1/z$ will give the other side.
Jun 26, 2017 at 1:33 comment added Igor Rivin @NoamD.Elkies You are absolutely right on all counts, I fixed the conjecture and the typo (the latter coming through alternating between programming and latex).
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Jun 26, 2017 at 1:20 comment added Noam D. Elkies Re the second conjecture: $A_n/(x^n+1)$ is irreducible for $n=3,7,15,31$; for other odd $n \leq 41$ it has at least two factors but sometimes has three ($n=17,35$) or even four ($n=29,41$). Still all but one factor is cyclotomic; maybe that's what you meant to conjecture. [Also: "$<=$" $\neq$ "$\leq$" . . .]
Jun 26, 2017 at 0:53 comment added Will Sawin $\left( \sum_{i=0}^n X^{i^2} \right) / X^{n^2}$ converges to $1$ for $|X|>1$, and this renormalized limit is certainly nonvanishing. Probably one can convert this to an explicit bound on the zeroes of the finite sums.
Jun 26, 2017 at 0:51 comment added Noam D. Elkies Neat graphic. There's a product formula (probably a special case of the "Jacobi triple product") that shows that $\sum_{i=0}^\infty X^{i^2}$ has no zero with $|X|<1$. But $|X|=1$ is a natural boundary so it doesn't make sense to ask about zeros on or outside the unit circle.
Jun 26, 2017 at 0:18 history answered Igor Rivin CC BY-SA 3.0