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Aug 18, 2017 at 11:36 history edited darij grinberg CC BY-SA 3.0
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Jun 3, 2010 at 22:51 comment added darij grinberg Yes - I meant I have no idea how to do this with our method.
Jun 3, 2010 at 22:23 comment added Wadim Zudilin Darji, Skip gives in a comment above the links to his original contribution (Representation Theory 12 (2008) 435-446; arxiv.org/abs/math/0702731]) where he proves the equivalence in any char $\ne2$.
Jun 3, 2010 at 11:18 comment added darij grinberg Skip: now that comes as a surprise. My proof requires char to be $0$ indeed (or at least $4n$, I believe), and at the moment I have no idea what to do against this. By the way, are the forms still equivalent over $\mathbb Z\diagup p^k\mathbb Z$ for $p>2$ prime?
Jun 2, 2010 at 23:33 comment added Wadim Zudilin @Skip: I guess you are Skip G., the author of the theorem in the OP. Without Darji's solution the problem can be lost, so I would suggest that you agree on a note (at least for the arXiv); there is no work to do but to take the already existing texts. @Darji: Binomial coefficients are too interdisciplinary, I wonder whether we had an MO question "Why binomials are so important in maths". :-)
Jun 2, 2010 at 15:17 comment added Skip That a great argument, Darij. One additional comment... Tim posed the problem over the rational numbers, but the theorem works over every field of characteristic $\ne 2$. (If char = 2, then you see immediately that it is wrong.) I guess your proof requires char $=0$ or $>n$.
Jun 2, 2010 at 14:35 comment added darij grinberg Oh, nice, I forgot that finite differences are used in analysis all the time - but still I count them to combinatorial algebra. Well, probably finite differences belong to all of mathematics. By the way, the problem also illustrates very nicely that the $K$-vector space of all polynomials in two variables $X$ and $Y$ of degree $\leq n-1$ in each of these variables is the tensor product of the $K$-vector space of all polynomials in one variable $X$ of degree $\leq n-1$ with itself. (Together with the fact that bilinear maps on a vector space are linear maps on its tensor product with itself.)
Jun 2, 2010 at 12:08 comment added Wadim Zudilin Oh yes, analysis as well. (I forgot to add linear algebra.) A very similar trick of using the difference operator can be found in Pade approximation business. I learned this from Marc Huttner (the paper is [M. Hata and M. Huttner, Pad\'e approximation to the logarithmic derivative of the Gauss hypergeometric function, Analytic number theory, eds. C. Jia and K. Matsumoto (Kluwer 2002), pp. 157--172]) and used myself in wain.mi.ras.ru/PS/nupi-SbM2005.pdf (proof of Lemma 1).
Jun 2, 2010 at 0:36 comment added Wadim Zudilin These are really a solution (and the problem itself) belonging to my taste. It can serve as a very good problem for textbooks in analysis/combinatorics. Congratulations, Darji!
Jun 1, 2010 at 21:24 vote accept Timothy Chow
Jun 1, 2010 at 20:58 history edited darij grinberg CC BY-SA 2.5
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Jun 1, 2010 at 20:18 comment added fherzig That's a nice solution. So one can describe an explicit change of basis between the two quadratic forms. A couple of typos: it should say $Q_{2i+1}$ when you rename near the top. Also $2(2(n-1)+1) = 4n-2$ (!) and this is less than $4n$. You really need $< 4n$, since otherwise the alternating sum you wrote wouldn't vanish.
Jun 1, 2010 at 17:28 history edited darij grinberg CC BY-SA 2.5
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Jun 1, 2010 at 14:35 history edited darij grinberg CC BY-SA 2.5
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Jun 1, 2010 at 11:51 comment added Wadim Zudilin Darji, this is indeed a wonderful proof, and much more than 50% (my post was just a reformulation of the original problem). It should also work for the second case. Thanks a lot for giving me rest of the problem! :)
Jun 1, 2010 at 10:54 history answered darij grinberg CC BY-SA 2.5