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Mar 29, 2022 at 1:11 comment added David Roberts The second link in Jim Humphrey's comment is broken, a replacement is arxiv.org/abs/math/0111043
Dec 25, 2021 at 11:52 comment added Maarten Derickx P.s. if you want an explicit example of the matrices in Dereks ${\rm PSL}(3,11)$ example take $s = \left(\begin{array}{rrr} 4 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 1 \\ 0 & 3 & 0 \end{array}\right) $. I am also worried about the argument the authors present cause they claim that R is the center of the group, which it is not. The matrix s is diagonalizable, so it could very well be in the image of one of the inertia matrices described in section 4 after choosing a different basis. There is an honest problem in the argument as written, and I would contact the authors privately to ask for clarification.
Dec 25, 2021 at 7:50 history edited Martin Sleziak CC BY-SA 4.0
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Apr 2, 2017 at 16:55 comment added Derek Holt For an example in odd characteristic, ${\rm PSL}(3,11)$ has a maximal (imprimitive) subgroup with structure $10^2:S_3$. For $P(G)$ we can take its (maximal) subgroup with structure $5^2:S_3$, which is still irreducible. It has elements of order $10$. I have spent a lot of my time during the past several years working on the structure of the maximal subgroups of the classical groups, so I have become very familiar with them. That's how I thought of these examples.
Apr 2, 2017 at 13:44 comment added mdave16 Do you have another example like this one, but not over a field of characteristic 2? The authors of this paper wouldn't have been considering characteristic 2. Thank you!
Apr 2, 2017 at 13:21 comment added mdave16 There is a description of (the image of) the inertia subgroup in section 5 of Dieulefait and Vila's paper. But for this you would need to know the definition of a fundamental character. There's a nice [post here][1] explaining them. If you're happy to read about them. How did you find this example? I would like to have a look at these subgroups too, if possible. [1]:mathoverflow.net/questions/44654/…
Apr 2, 2017 at 12:50 comment added Derek Holt In general there are cyclic subgroups of $P(G)$ that are not contained in $R$. For example, the maximal subgroup of ${\rm PSL}(3,8)$ with structure $7^2:S_3$ has elements of order $14$. But I am unsure of the definition of the inertia subgroup $I$.
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Apr 1, 2017 at 19:05 comment added Jim Humphreys It's useful to add more specific links to the article, which was published in 2004 (ams.org/mathscinet-getitem?mr=2045504) but appeared earlier in preprint form (front.math.ucdavis.edu/0111.5043).
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