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Nov 24, 2016 at 9:54 history edited Asaf Karagila CC BY-SA 3.0
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Nov 24, 2016 at 4:48 comment added Mohammad Golshani A characterization is given in the paper "Gitik, M.; Magidor, M.; Woodin, H. Two weak consequences of 0♯. J. Symbolic Logic 50 (1985), no. 3, 597–603." but I don't know if it is interesting to you or not. The statement is "There is a club $C$ of $\aleph_1$ consisting of L-inaccessible cardinals such that for each $\alpha$ a limit point of $C, C \cap \alpha$ is almost contained in every closed unbounded subset of $\alpha$ in L".
Nov 23, 2016 at 22:51 comment added Asaf Karagila I'll edit this tomorrow. I'll sleep on this and see if the morning will bring some better insights as to what are "natural properties" or what aren't.
Nov 23, 2016 at 22:46 comment added user3462 Yes, I made an edit which was not correct, and deleted it now since you know about it and I was getting into a muddle about it. Perhaps you could mention in your question that such an answer doesn't count?
Nov 23, 2016 at 22:44 comment added Asaf Karagila (Also, if anything, then the result that MA implies that $\omega_1$ is either computable from a real or weakly compact in L is far more relevant here; that's Theorem C(i) in the linked paper.)
Nov 23, 2016 at 22:40 comment added Asaf Karagila That is what Mohammad wrote in his now-deleted answer. But I agree that this is not exactly what I was looking for. This is more of a combinatorial property of the continuum, which is definitely not $\omega_1$. But it is an interesting fact, so thank you both for bringing this up.
Nov 23, 2016 at 17:43 history asked Asaf Karagila CC BY-SA 3.0