Timeline for Is there a model of ZF+ACC where transfer fails for the definable hyperreals?
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Jun 20, 2016 at 13:30 | comment | added | Mikhail Katz | @JoelDavidHamkins, the definition is a formula in ZF. Otherwise one couldn't speak about a definable object at all. The magic trick is that in order to prove that the extension is actually proper you need more axiomatic material. In other words, models where there are no ultrafilters will simply give you the same field you started with.Notice that transfer happens to be true for the trivial extension :-) | |
Jun 20, 2016 at 13:19 | comment | added | Joel David Hamkins | Don't we expect models of ZF+ACC where the definition fails, simply by lack of ultrafilters? | |
Jun 20, 2016 at 12:07 | history | edited | Mikhail Katz |
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Jun 20, 2016 at 7:07 | history | asked | Mikhail Katz | CC BY-SA 3.0 |