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Feb 23, 2016 at 17:26 vote accept Meysam Ghahramani
Feb 23, 2016 at 0:07 comment added Noam D. Elkies Probably practical but not easy . . . e.g. find equations for $X_0(\ell)$ and the auxiliary information to find the isogenies it parametrizes, then try lots of rational points until eventually (in $O(\ell)$ tries) one of them yields an isogeny whose kernel consists of rational points.
Feb 22, 2016 at 19:14 comment added Joe Silverman @NoamD.Elkies I know the OP asked for "deterministic", but I assumed that he/she wanted "practical deterministic". If one doesn't specify $j$, is there a practical way to find an $\mathbb F_p$ point on $X_1(\ell)$ if, say, $\ell$ is in the $10^3$ to $10^4$ range?
Feb 22, 2016 at 19:11 comment added Joe Silverman @DavidLampert Good point, I did know that, but it slipped my mind. Of course, the main point is that the likely answer is that there are no such curves.
Feb 22, 2016 at 15:52 comment added David Lampert I think $N(E',p) = 2(p+1)-N(E,p) (p \not= 2)$ is simpler.
Feb 22, 2016 at 15:45 comment added Noam D. Elkies Note, though, that "find a non-square in GF(p)" is a notorious example of a problem that's very easily in RP but not known to be in P. (The OP didn't actually specify polynomial time, but if any deterministic algorithm is acceptable then one could even try all elliptic curves mod p . . .)
Feb 22, 2016 at 15:36 history answered Joe Silverman CC BY-SA 3.0